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Started by JenJen2011, April 13, 2012, 01:29:43 PM

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Miranda Catherine

I'm 57 and I've been living full time for nearly eight months. I pass and haven't had anything happen even remotely embarrassing to me. I'm friends with another transwoman much younger (31 and much prettier) than me and we've gone out to eat and just talk at a nice restaurant twice. I was amazed and saddened when she felt everyone was 'reading' her and not me. She said "Everyone just looks at you as a pretty woman, but not me. They know." She's really gorgeous and doesn't look anything other than a cis-woman. She's had FFS but just started HRT about three months ago, not nearly enough time to let the hormones do their magic. It's weird, but she has a feminine body, voice and demeanor, as if she's always been a girl. Before she'd had FFS or hormones a few years ago she had a drunk guy start to get physical with her in a fast food restaurant after calling her a queer, ->-bleeped-<-, etc., and when he lunged at her she sprayed him right in the face with Pepper Spray. Unfortunately, I'm afraid the incident and another, less traumatic one have deeply scarred her. Guys were looking at her when I was with her, but not because they read her, it was that they thought she was a pretty, exotic young lady. She refuses to believe it. I think most of us have fears of being 'outed' no matter what we say, but I think without confidence even a beautiful TS can out herself, and that's what I fear she might be doing when she's alone.
These three years have been the best of my entire life
ones I've been able to live without lying
and the only time I've had since the age of twelve
I haven't constantly thought about dying



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Julie Wilson

Quote from: JenJen2011 on April 13, 2012, 01:29:43 PM
Have you ever been in a situation where everything is going normal, you're passing, and then all of a sudden you see another transgirl who would not pass even a mile away and people around you are staring, pointing, and giggling at her. How did you react? Did you try to defend her? Did you just stand there and watch? Or did you just try to get away from the situation?


No.
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Kelly-087

 No.. But I have scared a guy off of harassing some woman who wasn't very good looking. (Maybe trans? I doubt it)

I lol'd the way his girlfriend looked at him like the total coward he was after being scared off by me just standing up, shaking my head and staring him down.
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Dahlia

#23
I have a friend, a GG, bio mother of one,  about whom virtually everybody assumes she is a MTF.

She's a flight attendant and needed a maternity uniform in the fifth month of her pregnancy...while applying the clerk just flat out said: 'what do YOU need a maternity uniform for???' 
She answered, while pointing at her baby bump: 'what do you think THIS is? A beer gut belly'?

Anyway, we were standing and talking in a busy highstreet....and then I saw a group of young guys staring at her and then shouting 'look!! That's a guy!!'
Of course she heard them...but  she couldn't see their faces, while standing with her back to them....and her facial expression told me she thought they're talking about me........very, very, very embarrasing.

One of my closest friends is a totally unpassable MTF. Very masculine looking, tall, very masculine in the way she comports herself, her bodylanguage etc.
All that combined with a cup DD swinging from side to side when she walks, while moving her shoulders and upperbody.

And guess what? People stare, but not gawking and I can tell they're very intimidated by her looks and size.

No one, men, women, young, old, dares to utter a word because she's frightening looking.

For some reasong people focus so much on them when we're together....that I become 'invisible' to those very people.
They simply pay me no attention at all.
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rachl

Quote from: Annah on April 15, 2012, 11:45:14 AM
I had this happen at the bookstore I work at. I am stealth there and when I work I rarely think of transgender issues.

However, this one girl walked in to grab a starbucks coffee who was transgender. She just didn't pass. I wont go into detail with everything but she didn't.

A group of women sitting a table were staring at her and laughing. The trans girl picked up on this and you could see her spirit just sink to the floor. It was as if her soul just died.

I was grabbing the magazines off of various tables (customers at Barnes and Noble has this thing about not putting back the books and magazines they read lol) and I saw how rude the women were. I just couldn't keep silent.

I approach the women and explained to them how ignorant they were for making fun of someone. I then explained to them that just because someone was born the same way they were, does that give them an excuse to make fun of others? I then asked if they make fun of people bound to a wheel chair, or someone who has a type of disability? I then explained to them that for some transgender women they feel it is a birth defect and by you all making fun of her it is the same as making fun of a blind person ordering coffee. I told them this is the 21st century and it is time to drop the Stepford Wives Bigotry act.

Naturally, they wanted to speak to a manager for my behavior. I was all too willing. I told our manager in the break room and he grabbed the HRC and the GLAAD paperwork we have on the manager's desk.

After he let them voice their displeasure in my professional conduct, he stated "Ok. I listened to your side of the story and I need to tell you that as a company, I will not apologize for her actions." He then laced both HRC and GLAAD binders on the table and flipped through various statistics of people being harassed because of their sexual or gender identity. He then stated, "if you do not like the way Barnes and Noble treat people who are gay, transgender, lesbian, or bisexual, then I heavily suggest that you stop coming back to the store because we have many gay, transgender, lesbian and bisexuals who shop here. They have every right you do to be here. If this causes you to resort to name calling, high schoolish banter, and the need to harass them, then it would be probably best that you all leave. If you think you can stay here and not harass people because of their gender and sexual identity then you are very warmly welcome."

They got up and left. Two of them were very embarrassed as the cafe listened in and nodded in approval towards the manager.

Making fun and harassing someone in a very pro LGBT bookstore is foolish and I am glad my manager called them out on it.

This is awesome. Blog post please ;)
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Hannah

Quote from: JoeyD on April 13, 2012, 01:56:50 PM
Haha that hasn't happened, but something ->-bleeped-<-ed up did happen once, i was in a room with another transwoman who was much older than I was, and I thought she didn't pass too well but everyone in the room seemed to be nice and didn't pay attention.
I was relieved until this family walked in and of course, they had a loud mouthed kid, so I was like here it comes, so i put my head down and started reading a magazine when I hear "That girl looks like a boy." and that ->-bleeped-<-head was talking about me!

My first initial reaction was


but then i saw his mom close his mouth quickly and did those obvious "shhhhhhhh" gestures and i'm just devastated about all of this xD
its pretty funny, not so much for me tho.

Then my mom said that young girls with boyish features are gonna stand out more than an older woman with those features, because everyone would blame the features of the older woman on old age(and/or ugliness)



So yeah that was my story guies.

Haha, dat pic.

Same thing happened to me even before HRT, some little kid was like; "mommy, is that a girl", "no son, that's a boy".

All I had was long hair, FFS.  :P
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Silent Killer

Get away from the situation. I don't like associating myself with other trans at all so as not to get busted too but in any case some transphobics ->-bleeped-<-s are attacking or harming another trans physically, i WILL intervene but not for petty bickerings and verbal insults only.
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Butterflyhugs

Quote from: Hannah on May 01, 2012, 02:21:26 PM
Haha, dat pic.

Same thing happened to me even before HRT, some little kid was like; "mommy, is that a girl", "no son, that's a boy".

All I had was long hair, FFS.  :P

Before I transitioned (while I was still living as a boy), I once had a young fellow--probably like age 6 or so--tell me straight up: "You talk like a girl!"
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Jenny_B_Good

Quote from: Butterflyhugs on May 02, 2012, 01:04:48 AM
Before I transitioned (while I was still living as a boy), I once had a young fellow--probably like age 6 or so--tell me straight up: "You talk like a girl!"

It's always moments like these that I never take as an insult, but validation. It's sad that I get validation externally, but still... it works for me!!

Keep Smiling

Jen

OXOXOXOX
-       The longest journey a human must take, is the eighteen inches from their head to their heart    -
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TraciMC

BTW, tomorrow night on ABC they are doing a "What Would You Do" show on responding to transphobia in a public place:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2012/05/patrons-defend-transgender-waitress-at-n-j-diner/

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Tyler

There was a non passing transgirl in a beauty store I was in, I pass. People were saying stuff and the store people were obviously ignoring her, so I went over to help her and my grandma helped her too! People seemed to be less concerned with her when other people were with her :)
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