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When did your boobs come in after starting hrt?

Started by lecoeurdegrey, April 30, 2012, 07:39:31 PM

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tarac

I also  had persistent pubertal gynecomastia which presented itself as a small breast bud under a small bit of fat directly behind the nipple about 1' in diameter, as well as Montgomery glands on the nipple surface. day 3 they started aching, day 6 the disk/bud pushed up past the fat to the surface of the nipple. it grew into what felt like a cylinder mass and they looked kind of pointy, the mass/disk subsided and softened and about a week later they rounded out. 8 weeks and a lot of pain later, 34b....and stretch marks :/
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noleen111

Quote from: generous4 on August 13, 2013, 10:07:46 PM
Last year on the new protocol, quite a bit more, definitely MUST wear my bra!  :o   :D

That was a great day for me, the day I was required to wear a bra.
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generous4

Quote from: noleen111 on August 15, 2013, 09:25:03 AM
That was a great day for me, the day I was required to wear a bra.
The great day for me was being encouraged, by my boss, to wear my bra at work if I was comfortable.  She wanted me to feel comfortable; I had been binding, but it had gotten really painful.  She was great about it.
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Shantel

Quote from: noleen111 on August 15, 2013, 09:25:03 AM
That was a great day for me, the day I was required to wear a bra.

When my S.O. said I'd better wear one or they will be going south!
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A

I'm really looking forward to wearing a bra for its actual intended purpose instead of faking breasts. I really hope that somewhere along the way, my breasts do come in. I really don't want to end up with nothing, stuck faking things forever.

Question... I'm 22 years old. Started HRT at 20, almost 21, but I was on a very low dose of estrogen, which was increased by 50 % a month ago. I don't have a thin physique or thin person genes at all; I still look sort of fat at ~132 lbs for 165 cm (5' 5") while I should be in a very healthy range.

I got soreness and tingling for a while, and since then, I've always had my nipples/areolas relatively sensitive to pressure, with them having a lump underneath. Right now I vaguely look like I sort of have a fat man's man-boobs, and they might look like they have grown a tiny bit since increasing my dose, even though I'm pretty sure my torso can still pass as male. Since going full-time, I've been using a very padded bra to fake A cups.

So, here's the question. How likely is it that I never end up growing any acceptable size of breasts? I know that some women don't even have much breasts at all, but what worries me is that all of those women, from what I know, barely have any fat anywhere to begin with. They're naturally very thin, and their small or nonexistent breasts follow that fact. But sheesh, I'm definitely not a naturally thin type, I'm relatively young and both my sister and my mother have very respectable sizes.

I'm getting a bit worried, to be honest. I wish I could just instantly test my blood levels at home, whenever I want to, to make sure I'm in the appropriate range, and see if an increase can be considered.
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A

That's not the point. I know I pass and all and all. But the very act of disguise is a profound annoyance. As is the fact that I cannot in any circumstances be seen by anyone before I get dressed (and put on my bra), or risk a very weird impression. (Because I certainly don't keep it on at night. It's sensitive, and I figure it needs a break.)

'Cause you know... On any woman who isn't naturally thin, having no breasts (heck, even having small fake A's like mine) looks especially awkward, because it virtually never happens. And looking at myself

Also, I seriously doubt I can even consider implants in "a few years". I still have to empty my priority list of facial hair removal, then body hair removal, then Adam's apple removal. Even when I get a job in my domain (which is, if I decide not to go to university, over a year away, but at least 3-4 if I do (and I think it's likely that I will)), I doubt I can produce the funds for all that so soon.

I know, the previous paragraph was utterly useless. Sorry. Anyway, mainly, more than encouragement, I was looking for information and experiences. But thanks.
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Joanna Dark

Well, TBH, I don't think many trans women experience breast growth beyond a B cup, if that. I think the stats are, if you believe the site second type woman, that 75 percent of trans women never get to a C. And 50 percent never get to a B. But even if you don't, when you graudate in 4 years and get a job, then you can get BA. I think a lot of the trans women who get big boobs had gynecomastia, and thus are recpetive to E. I had severe gynecomastia since I was 18. It's not a result of being overweight as I am skinny as a rail. I'm 5'6 and 130 lbs. I tried working out to get rid of them but it just made them bigger.

That being said I think your E dose has a lot to do with it. Now that you are on a higher dose you should see some more development. Have you considered trying Prometrium? I know the jury is out and there is no evidence either way, but the way I feel about it is I would rather take it and not get anything then not take it and still not get anything but never knowing if I could get more. Sometimes years in on HRT some trans women really develop so you still gots a ways to go.

I really do hope you get some more growth. You're such a awesome, sweet woman that you surely deserve it :-)
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Carlita

Quote from: A on August 16, 2013, 02:52:18 AM
That's not the point. I know I pass and all and all. But the very act of disguise is a profound annoyance. As is the fact that I cannot in any circumstances be seen by anyone before I get dressed (and put on my bra), or risk a very weird impression. (Because I certainly don't keep it on at night. It's sensitive, and I figure it needs a break.)

'Cause you know... On any woman who isn't naturally thin, having no breasts (heck, even having small fake A's like mine) looks especially awkward, because it virtually never happens. And looking at myself

Also, I seriously doubt I can even consider implants in "a few years". I still have to empty my priority list of facial hair removal, then body hair removal, then Adam's apple removal. Even when I get a job in my domain (which is, if I decide not to go to university, over a year away, but at least 3-4 if I do (and I think it's likely that I will)), I doubt I can produce the funds for all that so soon.

I know, the previous paragraph was utterly useless. Sorry. Anyway, mainly, more than encouragement, I was looking for information and experiences. But thanks.

You'd be amazed how many cis-girls, including some very famous beauties have tiny, or close to non-existent breasts. Kiera Knightley is one obvious example, also Kate Hudson and Paris Hilton, though both have had boob-jobs in the past couple of years. That's always something you could consider if you can't get natural growth.
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suzifrommd

Quote from: A on August 16, 2013, 02:52:18 AM
But the very act of disguise is a profound annoyance. As is the fact that I cannot in any circumstances be seen by anyone before I get dressed (and put on my bra), or risk a very weird impression.

I totally get this. It's the same with me. I've got acceptable breasts (but I still use breast forms so that they are obvious). My problem is my hair which is thin up above and makes me look like a middle aged man. I cannot allow myself to be seen without a wig.

I am consoled by reminding myself that this is an authentically female experience. Females in generations past felt naked without their make up, and even the silkiest tresses look like a holy mess before considerable care.
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A

Quote from: Carlita on August 16, 2013, 06:10:35 AM
You'd be amazed how many cis-girls, including some very famous beauties have tiny, or close to non-existent breasts. Kiera Knightley is one obvious example, also Kate Hudson and Paris Hilton, though both have had boob-jobs in the past couple of years. That's always something you could consider if you can't get natural growth.
I know that. The next thing I know is that I've never seen one cis woman with very small breasts who wasn't quite thin. And I looked up all of these celebrities, and heck, every single one of them is pretty thin. The small breasts don't look the slightest bit weird on them. but give them my butt, thighs, belly, even arms, and sheesh, NOW it'll look extremely unnatural.

Quote from: Joanna Dark on August 16, 2013, 03:45:32 AM
Well, TBH, I don't think many trans women experience breast growth beyond a B cup, if that. I think the stats are, if you believe the site second type woman, that 75 percent of trans women never get to a C. And 50 percent never get to a B. But even if you don't, when you graudate in 4 years and get a job, then you can get BA. I think a lot of the trans women who get big boobs had gynecomastia, and thus are recpetive to E. I had severe gynecomastia since I was 18. It's not a result of being overweight as I am skinny as a rail. I'm 5'6 and 130 lbs. I tried working out to get rid of them but it just made them bigger.

Lucky. Well, honestly, even a simple A would be extremely encouraging in my present state. Like, something that looks like actual breasts, not a slightly fat man's chest.

That being said I think your E dose has a lot to do with it. Now that you are on a higher dose you should see some more development. Have you considered trying Prometrium? I know the jury is out and there is no evidence either way, but the way I feel about it is I would rather take it and not get anything then not take it and still not get anything but never knowing if I could get more. Sometimes years in on HRT some trans women really develop so you still gots a ways to go.

Well, I intend to discuss it with my doctor once I reach a desperate state of estrogen having been obviously at the right levels for a good while and still nothing happening. Though I really hope I at least get something, someday, without it, because, well. I doubt I can convince my doctor to prescribe me a medication that isn't proven effective at all. So I hope I don't need to try.

There's implants, yeah, but I wonder... implants in something that doesn't remotely look like breasts... Wouldn't that make balloons? x.x


I really do hope you get some more growth. You're such a awesome, sweet woman that you surely deserve it :-)
...Well, on me right now if you forget about my face and hair it still doesn't look especially unnatural, but that's for the sole reason that my torso still looks absolutely male.
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Joanna Dark

Quote from: A on August 16, 2013, 02:01:05 PM
I know that. The next thing I know is that I've never seen one cis woman with very small breasts who wasn't quite thin. And I looked up all of these celebrities, and heck, every single one of them is pretty thin. The small breasts don't look the slightest bit weird on them. but give them my butt, thighs, belly, even arms, and sheesh, NOW it'll look extremely unnatural.
...Well, on me right now if you forget about my face and hair it still doesn't look especially unnatural, but that's for the sole reason that my torso still looks absolutely male.

Where's you T level at? You're in Canada so are you on CPA? CPA is technically a progestin. It also a true AA as it blocks T at the androgen receptor. It is not radically different from  Provera as they are both Progestins. But Provera acts upon the Pituitary gland and stops T production at the source and also inhibts GnRH. Both are used as chemical castration agents for sex offenders.  It should cause better breast growth judging from anecdotal accounts. If you can get on it I would. I know people say progesterone is bad and it doesn't work but one study (not a double blind true study) says that in MTF patients who took a progesterone have breast development that is unable to be differentiated from a genetic female but MTFs that have not taken progesterone do not have the same result. You could tell the difference between MTFs who never took progesterone and MTfs who did by the amount of glandular tissue. The study was flawed though so take it for what it is: anecdotal. But if you are getting zero breast growth I feel like it is worth a shot. if you reacted badly. Stop.
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Saffron

I got into an A cup after two months of HRT (the first one I started with a lower dose). I'm now 3 months and a half, and slowly getting into a B cup.

I take estradiol valerate and cyproterone acetate, both in pills form.
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A

Testosterone is really low... It's in the lowest part of the normal female range. And yeah, I take cyproterone as an antiandrogen.

...Now, I wouldn't say I'm having ZERO growth... But so far, I'm definitely having nothing significant enough to make my torso look female. Of course, after just a month of HRT on a decent dose of estrogen, maybe it's normal; I don't know. It really annoys me not to know what to expect though.

Also, if I indeed get zero growth, you can officially crown me the most unlucky in the domain. Not even having modest breast growth is rather rare, and even more if you consider my age group and body type. Actually I've never heard about it and I'll bet that since so many of his patients are a lot older, my doctor didn't see any either, and how he said that I shouldn't be too disappointed if it happens disregards the importance of age. Or something like that.

Sigh, today, I talked to this random guy on the Final Fantasy XIV open beta and told him I would only play until the beta is over, because of the crazy prices. He said that 15 $ a month for a game was actually very reasonable, to which I replied that it's more than 10 % of my available income after essential expenses (excluding food because it's hard to calculate). Apparently being able to pay 15 $ a month for a game is normal.

I hate poverty. I can live simply and go without all the games and entertainment in the world, but when I look at the fact that I'll probably have to go through another full school year still having to shave my face because I ran out of money for facial hair removal and then think that I might eventually have to add the crazy expense of breast implants to that, I just want to wake up from the nightmare already.

Sorry, slice of life/very depressed episode.
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spx_1112

I loved the new breast tenderness soreness and growth. Hugs Shannon
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GingerMaxim

I just restarted my HRT after about 2 months off.

My Areola are so puffy, it's awesome. At some points they get massive...

My question is, does this mean that fat is being deposited into that area?
Why I ask is because over 20 years ago I had my nipples pierced, but had removed the nipple rings years ago.
But the round shape of my nipples were ruined. They are more elongated then any form of round shape.

I am hoping that the shape may get filled in and make them a bit more round looking and fat, is this possible?

Also, how much %wise will my nipples size and areola increase? I am hoping for LOTS...

Comments? Experiences?
Thank you.
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Zoetrope

Mine have crept along, slowly but surely, over the first 9 months of HRT.

It's only now that my HRT has been maxed out, that they are really taking shape.
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stephaniec

mine have really rounded out after 18 months
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saharo

I was born mostly as female but never had boob grow. So i started hrt when i was 20 and now got a cup B. It went quick BC i am a biological female but one year later i realize i feel more like a guy so i am starting T ...
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Mai

i had very low tstosterone to begin with, but, after going on low dosage estrogen, and spiro i had nodules behind my nipples that i noticed at day 16.  and now, at 2 month mark, they have spread out to ~1.5inches in diameter.  and have pretty much been constantly painfull to the touch since day 12-13 or so.
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Tessa James

Don't we love boob talk!  YMMV remains the bottom line and there are countless posts here about drug regimens and responses. 

An earlier responder, Jamie D, noted they came in 40 years before HRT and I have a twist on that.  From around puberty it felt to me that i did have very real breast, however small, that were part of what I knew as my shadow self.  I cross dressed for years with breast forms but found it very unsatisfying until I came out full time and started transition.

Now having the growth and size of some typical teenagers it is a wonderful confirmation and validation of, what to me, was always there.  It is so good to be real!
Open, out and evolving queer trans person forever with HRT support since March 13, 2013
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