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Are there really so few of us?

Started by suzifrommd, May 13, 2012, 11:38:30 AM

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suzifrommd

I've been looking for a non-binary support group in my area. Haven't come up with much. There are a lot of groups for binary-transgendered, family of binary-transgendered. There's even one for parents of transgendered. But there seems to be nothing for the non-binaries.

I went to a support group last night posted for people with gender issues, but all the people there were transitioning MtF's. They explained that they simply didn't get people with other types of issues, so they split into two groups, MtF's and FtM's. They were very welcoming and invited me back. I might just go. Susan's is great but there's no substitute for in-person support.

But it didn't feel right. They didn't encourage me to transition, but did a lot of talking about how all their problems got so much better after they did. We spoke the same language of gender-identity issues, but I don't know how relevant their experiences are to me.

Are non-binaries so rare that we can't get a support group together in a heavily populated area like central Maryland?

It looks like if I'm going to find a non-binary support group, I'm going to have to start one myself. That's daunting. I'm not a natural leader, and it sounds exhausting. It would be nice to have some help, but I have yet to meet even one other non-binary in person

Are there really so few of us?
Have you read my short story The Eve of Triumph?
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Jamie D

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Quote from: agfrommd on May 13, 2012, 11:38:30 AM
Are there really so few of us?

You may have to start one yourself!  I am in the same position in my own county.  Statistically, there should be 3,000 or more people in my country who are transgendered - I can't say how many (or few) of these would be androgenous, non-binary, neutrois, etc.

If you are in the greater Baltimore area, population between 600,000 and 1,000,000, you should have 2,000 to 3,500 transgendered individuals to pull from.

Finding them is the challenge!
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aleon515

I'd guess there are actually *more* androgynes than ftm or mtf. The trouble is that I don't think that most of us know we are. I say this as someone who just figured this out a few months ago. I knew that I was different, and what my experiences were, but I didn't know to what extent or what to call it.

Why do I think there are more? I think that it is on the trans* continuum somewhere. I'd also bet that if you were to find a west coast college campus there would be more (perhaps than there actually are, as I think it might be something to experiment with).

Just my 2 1/2 ยข,  but you get what you pay for. LOL! :-)


--Jay Jay
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ativan

There are more of us out there, it's the lack of need to identify, or how to identify, that hides them.
Everyone has heard of binary Trans* people. There are things in common, but it's just not them, and they feel that.
We are different in the fact that we don't have as pressing a need to transition, if at all, as binary Trans* so often do.
I think that holds a lot of non-binary Trans* people back from finding out more about themselves and finding others.

I think this is true from the statements that new people here make when they find this place or another, online.
I know I did, a couple of years or so back. And the people who were already here, had a similar experience.
There is a certain fear that some have, that they will only find binary Trans*.
Something they are not looking for, or questioning about, in themselves.

When non-binary becomes more common in the media, so to speak, there will be more people doing the, 'Aha!, that's me!'
We are not as few as would be suspected, we are the forest that can't be seen for the trees.
It is a big place, this forest, with many paths that criss-cross over one another, with many names.
A lot of people here, many who are just quietly going their own peaceful way.
They have found where they want to be. They are familiar with the paths they have found for themselves.
Me, I may live here in my tree house, but I have more places I want to explore before I settle down.

Ativan
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aleon515

I just emailed someone on youtube. I am pretty certain she is an androgyne. I am pretty certain there are several of them on TV. Anyone ever see Rachel Maddow? She seems like one I can think of. (I don't mean to be political here, beyond any possible politics of gender issues, which I am staying out of for now.)

I didn't know about this til about 2-3 months ago. So I went most of my life having no idea that it was possible not to be either gender.


BTW, I don't know if this might help, but there is sort of an online moderated chat (most of them over there are professionally moderated but the androgyne one is not) on laura's playhouse. I am sort of turned off by the name, but I have read some posts on the forum. Anyway it might give you ideas?


--Jay Jay
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suzifrommd

I'm starting to get why this is called the "unicorn forest".

Made a trip to my local public library. It's a large library serving a diverse population. Logged into the search engine to find books. Queried genderqueer, androgyne, bi-gender, and a half dozen other terms.

Nothing.

Tried transgender. Got a bunch of hits, and looked them up in the stacks. Tried to find some of the above terms in the index.

Nothing.

So that's why we're unicorns. The binary world doesn't think we exist.
Have you read my short story The Eve of Triumph?
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aleon515

It's a good name. I can't say that I'm surprised. If I went to the local library, I think I'd get the same result.

--Jay Jay
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Pica Pica

I got one book with the word androgyne in the title, and it's a book of literary theory.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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