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Progesterone and Androcur

Started by Dannii, May 17, 2012, 01:20:58 AM

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Dannii

Hey everyone...


some great news today! My doctor called me this morning and discussed my first 6week t-level check up, apparently it's down from my initial 22 to 1.2, which he thinks is thanks to Androcur. He also brought up some information regarding progesterone. Apparently it doesn't really help much in terms of feminization unlike oestrodiol however it does aid in breast development. I was just wondering if anyone here has experienced progesterone therapy through 12 week injections therapy? Are there any benefits at all?

Also my doctor said that due to me being a larger individual my current dosage of oestrogen needs to be doubled. I've read around and when I first started I saw that other people were given higher dosages. It should be noted that I am my first doctor's transexual patient and that he himself is learning but thankfully is under the guidance of an experience colleague who has numerous transexual patients. And with Doctor calling me today was partly due to his colleague suggesting that I should up my dosage. I'm worried that my doctor may be inexperienced in this field and I probably should ask to change to the more experienced doctor however my current doctor has looked after me for a while now so I feel awkward to change?? I was just wondering if anyone else experienced a dosage change within the first few weeks of HRT?

I'm in a weird mood at the moment, I feel happy because my T-levels have dropped drastically and initially was worried that being so high at the start (22) would mean that my transition would take longer. Haha. Boy were we surprised when the results came back! I'm also upset that I probably should have had more changes more apparent had my oestrogen dosage been the new recommended dosage from the start. I don't know.

xx Dannii


edited to remove dosage information - sorry!
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Asfsd4214

Ok, first I should inform you that it is in fact against the policies of susans.org to specify what dosage of medication you're taking. It's considered by the powers that be that it encourages self medication.

Not a policy I agree with, I think it works like abstinence only sex-ed works, but regardless, it is what it is.

Thankfully I've already seen your post prior to its inevitable edit, and without mentioning numbers, I don't think I'm breaking any rules in saying that both dosages you mentioned are relatively normal and common. I wouldn't suggest trying to get prescribed an estradiol dose higher than the larger number you mentioned, it's already about the highest dosage that's commonly prescribed and it wouldn't be recommended unless your blood work shows insufficient levels at that dosage, which is highly unlikely.

I think you should stay with your doctor, even if he's inexperienced the numbers you've given sound fairly straightforward and common (I can't speak for androcur because I've never taken it, but if your T level is good then that's what matters).

To any moderators who may be about to edit my post, I ask you do not. I know it's your job to enforce the rules, but I haven't said any dosages, the original poster is not self medicating, and my advice is in an honest attempt to give him the best ethical advise I can and to stick with his existing doctors advise. Once the original posters post is edited my post can't be taken to be aiding self medication in any way I can see.
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Jamie D

Remember that we don't list dosages in our posts.

The policy is intended to prevent people from DIY treatment complications - one person's dosage/medications may not be appropriate for another person.  Thanks.
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Dannii

thanks for the heads up and i have edited it to remove my dosage information. I simply forgot. Whoops. Sorry!


So from what it seems it's a normal dosage even after doubling it up? Hmmm I hope this helps... I'm still not confident my oestrodiol isn't doing anything for me besides boob tenderness..and leg hairs taking longer to grow back.
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Jamie D

Hey danni

Don't be discouraged after just six weeks.  And don't be surprised if the doctors "ramp up" the hormone dosages over time.  There can be some bad complications from starting big doses right off the bat.  It is best to follow the advice of your medical professionals.

Good luck to you.
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Asfsd4214

Quote from: danni8891 on May 17, 2012, 01:37:26 AM
thanks for the heads up and i have edited it to remove my dosage information. I simply forgot. Whoops. Sorry!


So from what it seems it's a normal dosage even after doubling it up? Hmmm I hope this helps... I'm still not confident my oestrodiol isn't doing anything for me besides boob tenderness..and leg hairs taking longer to grow back.

What you really want to see, from the best scientific information available, is your blood work showing free testosterone in the female range, and estradiol in the female range. Ask your doctor if he can assure you it is. Ideally you should take as little medication as possible to achieve the desired medical goals.

HRT does take time to work and it varies from person to person how fast it works. If your dosage is giving good numbers in your blood work, probably best thing you can do is give it time.

I've seen a lot of people prescribed a lot of different dosages of different medications, the highest for estradiol being the higher number you originally mentioned.

Again, it's best not to take any more than you need. Your doctor may be inexperienced but it sounds like he's doing what a good doctor should, which is to either refer you to a doctor who is competent, or ask one themselves and become experienced in that area of medicine.

The numbers sounded fairly common. Probably best not to change doctors unless you find evidence your current one is allowing your serum hormone levels to be inappropriate.
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Dannii

Quote from: Jamie D on May 17, 2012, 01:43:44 AM
Hey danni

Don't be discouraged after just six weeks.  And don't be surprised if the doctors "ramp up" the hormone dosages over time.  There can be some bad complications from starting big doses right off the bat.  It is best to follow the advice of your medical professionals.

Good luck to you.


Thanks, I understand that as well.. and saw also that to bring down the medication it has to be slowly as it might do damage, so I guess naturally the opposite would be the same case. Increasing dosage slowly would be a safer bet. I know its still early in my HRT but I'm impatient. :( I guess this IS a life changing change so best to do it right, I suppose.

Quote from: Asfsd4214 on May 17, 2012, 01:53:00 AM
What you really want to see, from the best scientific information available, is your blood work showing free testosterone in the female range, and estradiol in the female range. Ask your doctor if he can assure you it is. Ideally you should take as little medication as possible to achieve the desired medical goals.

HRT does take time to work and it varies from person to person how fast it works. If your dosage is giving good numbers in your blood work, probably best thing you can do is give it time.

I've seen a lot of people prescribed a lot of different dosages of different medications, the highest for estradiol being the higher number you originally mentioned.

Again, it's best not to take any more than you need. Your doctor may be inexperienced but it sounds like he's doing what a good doctor should, which is to either refer you to a doctor who is competent, or ask one themselves and become experienced in that area of medicine.

The numbers sounded fairly common. Probably best not to change doctors unless you find evidence your current one is allowing your serum hormone levels to be inappropriate.

Thanks for clearing that, as I said before I'm just impatient. Even with my hair it's currently ear length and so basically I wear a wig whenever I see my partner. I've looked into hair extensions and they are incredibly expensive. Grrrr I just wanna be a woman already haha! But I'll wait... :)
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A

Uhm, if you're wondering about progesterone, you should know that there is currently no scientific proof of its effects (that I know of), nor are there any that say it's useless, so it's all up to people's beliefs. Personally, I was convinced to forget about progesterone by this.
http://www.gires.org.uk/assets/Medpro-Assets/Progesterone.pdf

Do what you want from this point on, but I personally don't recommend it. ~
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