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My company stabbed me in the back

Started by Keaira, May 24, 2012, 12:17:27 AM

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Butterflyhugs

They should make the people who complained use the unisex bathrooms, not you. It's their own faults for being "uncomfortable." You're supposed to be protected by the company policy.
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Keaira

And that is pretty much what INTRAA's President said would be the correct response. But HR didn't like that either.
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Butterflyhugs

Maybe they'd like it wrapped in a legal-sounding document from one of those groups you mentioned  :angel:
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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: Butterflyhugs on May 30, 2012, 01:18:56 PM
Maybe they'd like it wrapped in a legal-sounding document from one of those groups you mentioned  :angel:

And there's a chance that her pink slip could be wrapped up in her next paycheck, with it reading "Lack of productivity and cause of unrest in the workplace". I wouldn't do anything brass without further financial and legal security.
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Brooke777

Alainaluvsu, you do make a good point.  This is a delicate situation.  With that said, Keaira, if you can live with the possible job loss you should fight the battle.  Like I said in an earlier post, I am the type of person that will put up a fight.  Remember, you do not have to.  But if you do, make it a good one.  Show them that they can't push the trans community around.  Just my point of view.
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Renee D

Have you legally changed your name yet?  could that be an issue with them?
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Annah

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on May 30, 2012, 04:03:28 PM
And there's a chance that her pink slip could be wrapped up in her next paycheck, with it reading "Lack of productivity and cause of unrest in the workplace". I wouldn't do anything brass without further financial and legal security.

^ this
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Keaira

I'm fighting them. If I end up unemployed then so be it. This kind of treatment is wrong and I would stand up for others in my situation. I just have to fight it subtly, legally and in a way that will help me but also make the company feel like it wasn't being forced into a corner. Hence why I have been talking with INTRAA about possible training for Valeo's HR staff.
And yes, my name is legally changed. Since I am from the UK I had to do it via Deed poll so I can ever get a new Birth Certificate. I even had the HR rep I've been dealing with all this time sign as a witness. So he was there when I changed it. :P
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grrl1nside

I'm sorry to hear about your struggles. It makes me so thankful that I work in a very small office and there are two washrooms with no male or female signs. Although by practice men use one and women the other, we also use each others when they are full so it is hardly something that is set in stone or would raise eyebrows. It is comforting...

I honestly don't know what I would do in your place. Part of me would want to battle, but the other side of me would want to work with the others to help them get more comfortable with me. So, I think that I would do a bit of both in a slow, progressive manner. For instance, I would advocate for the retraining side of things so that your colleagues have an opportunity to learn, become more aware, and hopefully a bit more sensitive to transgender and possibly other issues. I would also suggest that there be a team review of any policies around human rights, cultural sensitivity, etc. I would make it clear to HR what I am aiming for but what simple and more change friendly ways could be attempted first because my aim would be for a truly inclusive workplace rather than one forced legally to change. It would only be after this was tried would I be tempted to push harder. I like the soft approach to change first and only going extra steps as they become necessary. If and only when they became necessary, providing I was willing to suffer the potential employment consequences, then I would push on.

Big hugs to you and good luck. I'm hoping that with a little time there will be positive changes for you and your team.
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Keaira

Well, I got KNOW YOUR RIGHTS: EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION AND TRANSGENDER PEOPLE in my email today from one of my PFLAG family members. And inside, in black and white, are my rights. Valeo and it's employees are violating 3 of those.

You have the right to be treated with respect and not be harassed. Sex-based harassment is unlawful when it is
severe or pervasive and an employer does not take steps to stop it. Jokes or derogatory comments about transgender people, repeated and intentional use of the wrong name or pronouns, or intrusive, disrespectful personal questions may constitute harassment, and supervisors should take steps to stop it.

You have the right to safe and adequate access to restrooms and other facilities. Federal regulations enforced by
the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) require employers to make adequate facilities available
as freely as possible for all employees. Under no circumstances may an employer require you to use restroom
facilities that are unsanitary, unsafe, or located at an unreasonable distance from your work station. Denial of
access to restrooms that are consistent with an employee's gender identity may also constitute discrimination.

So, that's other employees continuing to use my old name, the ongoing deliberate wrong pronouns and the restroom problem.

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Brooke777

Go get 'em. 

I hope you don't mind, but I have fought battles over restroom facilities before.  Them having you use the unisex one might bring them into compliance with that rule.  Your state, and lawyer could answer that better than I can.  I just wanted to give you a little heads up.

Good luck, be strong, teach them they can't mess with trans people.
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Snowman77

That's horrible! I'm sorry to hear that!
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Keaira

Quote from: Brooke777 on June 01, 2012, 07:38:36 AM
Go get 'em. 

I hope you don't mind, but I have fought battles over restroom facilities before.  Them having you use the unisex one might bring them into compliance with that rule.  Your state, and lawyer could answer that better than I can.  I just wanted to give you a little heads up.

Good luck, be strong, teach them they can't mess with trans people.

The complaint was filed with the EEOC. The investigator I spoke with said I definitely had a case. So, I signed the paperwork and sent it back to their office. And the unisex bathroom is further away from the other rest rooms. All of the unisex bathrooms are. in fact, of the 3 unisex bathrooms that are there, I cant get to one after 5pm because the doors auto-lock another is located in the nurse's station and that gets locked when the nurse leaves, leaving me one that is waaay in the back of the plant.
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Beth Andrea

Why aren't the women who are complaining told to use the unisex restrooms?
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: Beth Andrea on July 19, 2012, 07:34:14 PM
Why aren't the women who are complaining told to use the unisex restrooms?

No joke....
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Keaira

Because that would be seen as supportive I guess. I'm betting that it has something to do with the guy from Corporate HQ who was there that week.

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Josie M

Well, I think you're doing the right thing by getting support for this.  No doubt the company will argue that the unisex bathroom is accommodation.  Meanwhile, I imagine the groups you mentioned will go with a "Jim Crow" reference.  Point is, this looks like it will be a tough fight

On the other hand, the use of the wrong pronouns and incorrect name are a direct and clear violation of you company's harassment policy.  That might be a good place to start.  It gives you the ability to assert your right to be recognized for who you are.  It will also possibly drive training programs which will help with the trickier bathroom fight.

I'm actually involved in the diversity department where I work so I'd be curious to know how you make out.
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MaidofOrleans

Glad to hear you are fighting them on this. Nothing will change unless you stand up and show them you can't be stepped on.
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Keaira

So, I got wrote up today because I didn't have a portable hopper set up and mold changed faster than you can say, "Wow"!
considering I had to find the mold to begin with AND clean a dirty hopper myself, fill it with material AND hook it up to CRS, All I can say is Frak you Valeo!

Then Scott Adaska told me "I don't like your attitude... I don't want to micromanage your area but I will and you wont like it."

I just walked away. Frankly I think it's becoming harassment because of my complaint to the EEOC.

It's funny, Management has no issues discriminating against me nor me not taking breaks.
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caitlin_adams

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I hope the organisation will see the light and doesn't continue to treat you this way.

Do you have a union presence in your workplace? Often a legal right without solidarity and an organised workforce on your side is unenforceable.
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