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Started by Dawn Heart, June 18, 2012, 04:34:30 AM

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Dawn Heart

Here are some questions I have after reading about the VU hospital experiences. Since I have only recently made the decision to privately and seriously confront my identity and how I have always felt, what are the chances I will be recognized as a "real" case as opposed to some other diagnosis once I am able to see a therapist?

Here's the thing, I'm not in this raging place where I'm obsessed like "I have to get rid of my male parts right now this second" sort of thing, but I am honestly wanting to deal with who I am and how I feel. I feel as if moving towards transition will make me happy, and will allow me to put everything else into its proper perspective.

I posted this in another thread "I remember praying for God to let me become a female so I could finally feel more like myself. I started noticing guys and girls early on, and always wanted to hang with the girls. Very rarely did I have any desire to be with or near guys, because...get ready for it....I was attracted to them and simultaneously repulsed by my feelings. I even impersonated females early on. People thought it was always just a stage, but I always knew better. I was never a "manly man" and always repulsed by the whole alpha type while also strongly feeling my fem side all the time. As I got older, I realized how much I liked the gay guys and the lesbian women more than the straight guys. Know what's weird? I always felt just fine around the straight women, but not the straight guys."

I also posted in my follow-up introduction thread that I have always been more attracted to the women's clothes, women's care sections, and make - up parts of stores as if I belong in there instead of the men's sections.

When I said I impersonated early on, I would actually get into the women's stuff in the house and actually got caught once, but this was years ago before I became an adult. The reason I just gave up on my feelings and buried it all was because of fear, embarrassment, anxiety, and my foolish investment in "being normal". I had a therapist when I was younger and during that time (my teens) I became extremely anxious about if I met the definition of "normal" and wanted to mention the whole body image issue and wanting to try living as a female, but that fear and anxiety took over again right when I was at the thresh hold of being brave enough to start mentioning it.

I am in the U.S. and not sure if I would be seen as TG as opposed to whatever else a therapist might want to label it.
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Jenny_B_Good

Welcome to the road of self discovery!!

A journey into one's true identity is a very personal one, hence it makes no sense to predetermine who you are before you've truly felt it. And the only way to do that? To start walking in a direction and see how it feels.

Best help with this will be a therapist that just listens while you talk. You already know all the answers, just sometimes you need to hear them out loud.

Be kind to yourself and always show respect

Jenny

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Dawn Heart

Jenny,

Thanks so very much for your supportive words. I just literally noticed that I posted this in what is called a "child board" and was wondering if we can move this to the adult talk area. I'm so new here that I'm posting stuff in the wrong place!
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Flan

Quote from: Dawn Heart on June 18, 2012, 07:06:05 AM
I just literally noticed that I posted this in what is called a "child board" and was wondering if we can move this to the adult talk area.
"child board" is just form terminology for a sub-form. it doesn't refer to the content of it.
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Dawn Heart

Thank you for that answer. I though when I saw "child board" that is was a forum for underaged people, lol. I have been having problems getting here to the site. The error message says the server is taking too long, lol. I had to use my third browser to finally get in.
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Dawn Heart on June 18, 2012, 04:34:30 AM
Here are some questions I have after reading about the VU hospital experiences. Since I have only recently made the decision to privately and seriously confront my identity and how I have always felt, what are the chances I will be recognized as a "real" case as opposed to some other diagnosis once I am able to see a therapist?

Here's the thing, I'm not in this raging place where I'm obsessed like "I have to get rid of my male parts right now this second" sort of thing, but I am honestly wanting to deal with who I am and how I feel. I feel as if moving towards transition will make me happy, and will allow me to put everything else into its proper perspective.

I posted this in another thread "I remember praying for God to let me become a female so I could finally feel more like myself. I started noticing guys and girls early on, and always wanted to hang with the girls. Very rarely did I have any desire to be with or near guys, because...get ready for it....I was attracted to them and simultaneously repulsed by my feelings. I even impersonated females early on. People thought it was always just a stage, but I always knew better. I was never a "manly man" and always repulsed by the whole alpha type while also strongly feeling my fem side all the time. As I got older, I realized how much I liked the gay guys and the lesbian women more than the straight guys. Know what's weird? I always felt just fine around the straight women, but not the straight guys."

I also posted in my follow-up introduction thread that I have always been more attracted to the women's clothes, women's care sections, and make - up parts of stores as if I belong in there instead of the men's sections.

When I said I impersonated early on, I would actually get into the women's stuff in the house and actually got caught once, but this was years ago before I became an adult. The reason I just gave up on my feelings and buried it all was because of fear, embarrassment, anxiety, and my foolish investment in "being normal". I had a therapist when I was younger and during that time (my teens) I became extremely anxious about if I met the definition of "normal" and wanted to mention the whole body image issue and wanting to try living as a female, but that fear and anxiety took over again right when I was at the thresh hold of being brave enough to start mentioning it.

I am in the U.S. and not sure if I would be seen as TG as opposed to whatever else a therapist might want to label it.

A lot of what you say is very familiar to me. It reminds me of when I was 12 and getting into my sisters clothes everytime my parents went out. I was always worried they would come back early and catch me!  they nearly did several times but I couldn't stop!
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Elizabeth K

I strongly suggest just chilling out and talking to a gender dysphoria trained therapist.  Be brutally honest with them and see what happens.  You are what you are - so just go ahead and start that journey of self discovery!  Worrying will only make you unhappy. 

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nicole99

yeah, don't fall into the trap of thinking you need to say the 'right' things. I think you will be short changing yourself if you did that.

The point of seeing a therapist is to work out how you feel about things and to work out what you want.  If you feel you are transgendered then that is what you are hun. A therapist can not tell you that. Down the line you may need a diagnosis of GID to get surgery etc.. but you don't need it to start figuring our how you want to live.

Good luck hun!

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JoanneB

Quote from: Jenny_B_Good on June 18, 2012, 05:43:18 AM
Welcome to the road of self discovery!!

A journey into one's true identity is a very personal one, hence it makes no sense to predetermine who you are before you've truly felt it. And the only way to do that? To start walking in a direction and see how it feels.

Best help with this will be a therapist that just listens while you talk. You already know all the answers, just sometimes you need to hear them out loud.
It is amazing how incredibly different things sound when you say them out loud. Also amazing is how incredibly difficult it can be at times to say them out loud to another person.

As Jenny said, keep an open mind and be brutally honest with yourself. Most of us will tell you that given a choice, we'd rather be anything but a TS. Between TS and "normal" is a multitude of choices. If the GD is not severe you may be very happy living out the rest of your life just outside of Normalville.

Only you know the right answers for you. A therapist and other travelers can only share some knowledge with you to help you answer those questions for yourself.
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kathy bottoms

Dawn: Your story sounds familiar.  I accepted that I was transgender a couple months ago.  For a long time I told myself I was o.k., but I really knew differently.  After all, beside the male me, I have the soul of a woman inside, and she's more alive each day.

I started this journey by setting a schedule, and everyone told me not to push these decisions.  I fought it, but finally gave in and put things off.  Now I'm not sure why a deadline was so important.  I get upset that things don't fall into place, but after reading other posts, I know things will get better.  And maybe some day I can even get over my stupid ranting.

I didn't know where I was heading two months ago.  I was afraid, and didn't want to admit it.   The fear was holding me back, and it still does, but at least I know what I'm dealing with.  So I just keep moving along.

I never have good advice, but ....First be very honest with yourself, then start looking for someone to help. I had a very hard time telling my doctor, and recently a more difficult, and fearful time, telling my wife.  But you know, I didn't turn into a jelly fish, or get sent to hell.  Some bad things happened, but I'm still here.

So take care.  And I'll follow your posts.

Kathy
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Dawn Heart

What a great bunch of replies! Thanks so much to all of you for taking your time to sit down and say a few words to support and share with me!  :)

Starting with Elizabeth K, I think I'll just take a few deep breaths and chill out until I can talk to a therapist. I think right now, I needed to get whatever parts of my story out in writing in front of me, and to share it with people who understand this part of life. At least I don;t feel like I'm keeping it a secret anymore, and I can make sense of my own real life process of eventually being "out".

Kathy b, that woman in me coming alive sorta had a bitchy night tonight. I was watching a popular reality TV program that deals with a single woman who has to choose who she wants to date and possibly marry, and she goes through this process of elimination in doing this. A couple of these guys she was dating started being kinda whiny and acting like they were surprised at her decision to eliminate them. My female mind was like "these men are just macho guys with inflated egos because they just wanted an easy lay" Thanks for the promise to follow my posts! You're really sweet!

JoanneB, yes, I agree! Brutal honesty is no stranger to me. Something I have become estranged from is that point between being honest with myself and then publicly acknowledging things to avoid reactions and drama, etc. Part of what I'm wanting right now is to say "the hell with that, people accept me or it's their loss" but being brave enough to actually do it is another thing. All in good time though!

nicole99, you're such a sweetie! Thanks for your insight about not getting short-changed by myself. It goes right hand in hand with what JoanneB said!

NaturallyBlonde...OMG! I know what you mean! The things I did were along the same lines, but different. Different in that I played more with bras and other basic female items, and that did include make-up at times. Seems like I'm the type of gal who can take it or leave it depending on my mood when it comes to make-up. That part of us that can't stop as you pointed out, seems to me to be the clear indicator that we were simply born in the wrong body.

All of you, thanks so very much for being here! All of you are awesome! 





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Kadri

I would add also that there's no need to worry too much about whether or not your own experiences match too much with those of others.

I was incredibly confused when I started out, and everywhere I turned I encountered people's life stories that didn't fit with mine at all and made me feel inauthentic and wrong, especially those of the first trans people I met. I had no idea for years what was wrong with me inside and why I felt the way I did. (Phew, I wasn't a weird screwed-up pervert after all. I was just transsexual!). This actually took a while for me to work out, as I believed that others' experiences to be somehow more true to what a trans person was than those my own, even despite the fact that I was already spending large amounts of time out and about socialising as female.


As things changed more and more, I noticed it was becoming distressing for me to be seen in public as a man, and then here I am a year later six months away from SRS....

That may or may not end up happening to you. But it's amazing what can happen when you finally let the cat out of the bag, and find out it's not the tomcat you expected :D All the best for your journey!
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Sephirah

The more one focuses on whether they are what they think they should be, and whether they did what they think they should have done, the less one is in touch with who they are and how they feel about themselves in the infinite moment of the present.

You really sum it all up in one line of your opening post:

Quote from: Dawn Heart on June 18, 2012, 04:34:30 AM
I feel as if moving towards transition will make me happy, and will allow me to put everything else into its proper perspective. 

This is more important than where you came from; it's the writer speaking, not the story. That may be a better thing to focus on with regard to therapy and being recognised as who you are.

To narrow it down even further, the best way to work out where you want to be in life is to listen to your heart, and these two little words:

Quote from: Dawn Heart on June 18, 2012, 04:34:30 AMI feel

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Carlita

Quote from: Dawn Heart on June 18, 2012, 04:34:30 AM
I am ... and not sure if I would be seen as TG as opposed to whatever else a therapist might want to label it.

Been there, thought that!! I remember a few years ago, I went to see someone at the Charing Cross hospital in London, which is the UK centre for transgender patients ... So I was talking to her, telling her my story and she was just listening, taking it all in, letting me say my piece. Eventually I stopped and said, "I'm sorry, but I keep waiting for you to interrupt me and tell me that I'm talking nonsense.'
She looked startled: 'Why would I want to do that? I spend all my time dealing with gender disorders.'
'I don't know,' I said. 'It's just that I keep thinking you're about to tell me that I've made a big mistake and I'm not really transsexual at all.'
She smiled and said, 'That hadn't occurred to me for a moment. Of course you are!'
I'd spent years when I was younger, being told I was just imagining things or fantasizing: the whole, 'it's just a passing phase' nonsense. Then I spent many more years telling myself that it wasn't real. And then, just to be told I was TS, and to have it completely accepted ... Just a wonderful, wonderful moment of validation.

I hope you have a moment like that, too. And I'm sure you will. Because from everything you've written, you're in this particular club too ...
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Dawn Heart

Quote from: Carlita on June 19, 2012, 08:40:02 AM
Been there, thought that!! I remember a few years ago, I went to see someone at the Charing Cross hospital in London, which is the UK centre for transgender patients ... So I was talking to her, telling her my story and she was just listening, taking it all in, letting me say my piece. Eventually I stopped and said, "I'm sorry, but I keep waiting for you to interrupt me and tell me that I'm talking nonsense.'
She looked startled: 'Why would I want to do that? I spend all my time dealing with gender disorders.'
'I don't know,' I said. 'It's just that I keep thinking you're about to tell me that I've made a big mistake and I'm not really transsexual at all.'
She smiled and said, 'That hadn't occurred to me for a moment. Of course you are!'
I'd spent years when I was younger, being told I was just imagining things or fantasizing: the whole, 'it's just a passing phase' nonsense. Then I spent many more years telling myself that it wasn't real. And then, just to be told I was TS, and to have it completely accepted ... Just a wonderful, wonderful moment of validation.

I hope you have a moment like that, too. And I'm sure you will. Because from everything you've written, you're in this particular club too ...

Whew!  :laugh: You really have made me feel validated with your story and your wish for me to have a moment like you did. Kadri and Sephira, thanks for your insight and encouragement as well! Hugs to each and every person who has responded to me so far! I think transition will be slow for me, and I don't expect it to be easy, especially because of the specific life circumstances I am working within. I have always been a person with a history of eventually living up to a challenge or facing my fears, but doing it in my own time. I played the game of running from my problems and other things early in my life and it all caught up to me just about two years before my HS graduation.

Quoteby Kadri: I was incredibly confused when I started out, and everywhere I turned I encountered people's life stories that didn't fit with mine at all and made me feel inauthentic and wrong, especially those of the first trans people I met. I had no idea for years what was wrong with me inside and why I felt the way I did. (Phew, I wasn't a weird screwed-up pervert after all. I was just transsexual!)

Until I spent a lot of time thinking, I started asking myself why I went and put myself through all the hell I have, and why I gave in to my various fears. I asked myself why it is worth hiding my identity and feeling bad or feeling like a coward, or whatever else in the negative emotional realm. I wasn't raised like that, and then I remembered this has to be the abused child inside me still cowering at the past abusers whom I took that power from long ago.

In another thread recently, I commented on a past relationship I had with someone I was in love with and also mentioned having been raised in the LGBT community which came with severe bullying by my peers. The bullying eventually became so bad that I became suicidal, but I was smart enough and mentally together enough to seek emergency help before I could act on doing myself in.

What killed me (metaphorically speaking) during the bullying all those years ago, was knowing my peers were right on track about my "queer" identity if you wish to call it that, and I didn't have the courage or the will to tell them they were right, and I should have done so because I wonder now if it would have shut them up and I wonder what kind of shocked look they would have had on their faces. I now also wonder if maybe I was smart after all in that specific situation since it may have only added fuel to their fire and may have possibly motivated someone to kill me.

That is all in the past now, and I sat down today and made a list of all of the issues in my life that I need to take care of including this GID issue. I also read the locked thread about people who sometimes de-transition. I won't re-open that can again, but I saw some people who made good points there. My goal on that list? "Make a reasonable, realistic plan that is manageable and measurable for dealing with each item".   

I will soon be looking into my local GID clinics and if they accept my insurance (I have state medical aid and Medicare). The thing about my list of issues is that they are all tied into this identity being repressed by me, myself, and I. I have been using my life dreams, my drive to do well, and life achievements as a way of burying all of this. I keep busy with stuff so I can avoid issues. I need to realize that is unhealthy and destructive and take responsibility for it.   
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Debra

It sounds to me like you're on the right track. Understanding yourself is really the first step. It doesnt mean you have to jump into surgeries....in fact, it's probably best that you don't. Approach it with the idea that if you end up feeling it's needed, you'll go through with it....for now, just keep figuring yourself out.

Some of the things you said in your original post here, ring true with many of us. We've felt the same way in the past.

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