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I need advice about when to tell.

Started by Suzanne00, June 25, 2012, 09:55:22 PM

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Suzanne00

When to tell?
I have a new man in my life who is hot for me and I for him. Sex is in the near future. We met on an online dating website and have had one hot date so far. He knows nothing of my trans past. Do I need to tell? When do I need to tell? How have others dealt with this issue? What kind of outcomes have others had? I am specially interested in hearing about other people's experiences.

A little more detail: it is probably a casual relationship independent on my trans status. We met on a sex site. But I have been clear that I am only interested in someone who wants to hang out, not just wants sex. He says he is on board with that but I know this is starting as a sex relationship, but I am not really interested in something super serious at this point either.

About us: we are both middle aged and moderately successful in our lives. I am have been fully transitioned for about 2 years. I have never had problems in public so I assume I pass fine. He seems to assume I have always been a regular girl. I am about 4 months post-op so my genitals are not where I would like them to be yet but are functional. I have already told him that he is not going to be doing oral sex. I have already had sex with another man whom I also met online. I told him about my past before we got together but he has moved on already. I am not sure if my past had an influence on his exit but he seemed to have no problem with it initially. I have not told this new guy about my trans past but he seems pretty liberal minded. His close sister is a lesbian and we went dancing to at a gay club without him batting an eye, on the other hand he spent much of his career as a marine (but doesn't seem like the type) and could probably kill me in a second... lol

What have been others' experiences and advice.

Suzanne
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Julie Wilson

I never tell.  Even if they ask or suspect or were told I was.

I listen to a radio show on occasion called Love Lines (with Doctor Drew Pinsky).

Anyway... on this radio show men frequently call in with the following question. "I really love my wife (or girlfriend) and I want to spend the rest of my life with her but I cheated on her and it is killing me and I want to know, should I tell her?"

Doctor Drew explained how the desire of the man to tell his girlfriend or wife that he cheated on her is selfish and destructive.  The man feels guilty and he wants to feel better.  He thinks by telling his wife or girlfriend that he cheated on her that he will feel better.  What will actually happen is that he will hurt his wife or girlfriend and sabotage the relationship.  If he really cared about his wife or girlfriend and her feelings he would simply avoid making the same mistake again and bear the burden of his guilt.  Confession to her only hurts her, he wants to hurt her or he is willing to hurt her, just so he can feel better.  How selfish and non-loving is that?

Now I agree... if a man is a chronic cheater he should tell his partner.  But if this is someone who made a mistake and if he intends to avoid making the same mistake in the future then he needs to deal with his guilt and not make it her burden just because he thinks telling her about it will make him feel better.

Sometimes women who transitioned think they need to tell a partner they transitioned.  They believe that if they tell their partner that they transitioned that they will feel better.  Personally having anyone in my life know I transitioned makes me feel dirty and poison's the relationship.  I think I need to bear the burden of my guilt or get over it and accept myself.  The way to accepting yourself is not through other people or making confessions.

To tell or not to tell or when to tell?  That is totally up to you.  Personally I don't tell.  The man who confesses to his wife or girlfriend that he cheated on her becomes a 'cheater' by telling.  The woman who transitioned who tells her partner that she transitioned (in my own personal experience) becomes a man.  I didn't create that reality and I don't like it any more than anyone else.  I hate it.  But I found that in order to have the life that I need to have, I have to take responsibility.

If you feel like telling then fine.  That is a good way to learn what you like and what you don't like.  Maybe it will work for you.  I just want to state that I advocate not telling.  I mean as long as your transition is in order.  I wouldn't be out to friends and neighbors but not out to him.  I believe in loyalty over honesty.  Honestly is not the virtue that people have pumped it as.  Honesty is a way for people to obey the rules for the sake of the rules while walking allover someone they supposedly care about.  Honesty is telling on someone, because you can.  I believe in loyalty over honestly.  Loyalty means not being out to everyone except the person you are supposed to care about most.  Loyalty means being true to your nature, if you are female be female.  Loyalty means not cheating on a partner.  Loyalty means caring for another person, looking out for them, being their friend.  But I have found that as a woman who transitioned in order to be able to be loyal to others I first have to be loyal to myself.  That means not telling people something which they will translate as, "I am really a man who tricked you into thinking I was a woman."

Women never tell people that they are actually men.  Women who transition and who are fortunate enough to have the option need to decide if they are going to betray themselves in order to be honest to someone else.  I know it can work for some people and I know some people don't feel the same way as I do about it.  I know that some people identify as trans or feel that being completely 'honest' feels good.  It really doesn't matter.  Experience will show you and there are plenty of fish out there.

There really are no answers.  You decide.
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glicious

I think an honest and open relationship will last way longer then one with hidden secrets.  Your gender is private but if you plan to spend a long time with someone then I think they deserve to know about you.  You don't want them to have certain expectations and then learn that you are not really who they think you are.  Having said that, if you're only having a quick fling, eg you meet someone at the airport per say and decide to hang out with them and things lead from one thing to another, then you don't have to reveal anything about you.

So I feel, you'll have to at least have a rough idea if this is looking like a potential long term relationship of something that you'd like to give a little more time to see how it progresses.  Either way, I always believe in honesty :)
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Suzanne00

Thanks girls, it is helpful to hear how others handle this issue and how it works out for them.
Suzanne
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Laura26

Hi Suzanne,

I came across some interesting discussion threads for this subject on ->-bleeped-<- recently. 

As a warning - there's some VERY blunt, non-politically correct comments in there, and I'll confess that quite a few of the comments made me quite angry - but it does offer some insight in to the man's point of view and both sides are represented.

http://www.->-bleeped-<-.com/r/MensRights/comments/l9ku2/why_do_you_deserve_to_know_if_the_woman_youre/
http://www.->-bleeped-<-.com/r/MensRights/comments/h7bin/trans_women_disclosing_hypotheticals_vs_reality/

As for my own opinion - I'd want to have a few dates without disclosure, then tell him before we had sex.
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Suzanne00

Thanks for the feedback.
Late last night after much agonizing I wrote him. I went to sleep sure that was the end of it.
HE DOESN"T CARE! I am so relieved. Here is what he said in this morning's email: "You remain the most interesting woman I've met in town -- no change of opinion there."
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tunak

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mintra

Good for yoy Suzanne. Wish you great happiness with your new guy!
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Miharu Barbie

I am very pleased to hear that things are working out just as you hoped they would Suzanne.  Sometimes keeping fundamental secrets in long-term and life-long intimate relationships about who we are, who we've been, and all that we've achieved in this lifetime can be stifling and suffocating.  I believe that there is spiritual and emotional freedom in honesty.  I don't know you, but I'm proud of you!!!

Peace,
Miharu
FEAR IS NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!!


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