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Planning to stay in "boy mode" for a while after starting HRT?

Started by JohnnieRamona, July 12, 2012, 07:33:28 AM

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JohnnieRamona

At this point, my transition plan (once I start) is to stay in "boy mode" for while after I start HRT- That way I can (hopefully) ease into it gradually, and get lazer work on my face done while my meds reconfigure things. I guess I have two questions- First, how common is this sort of strategy, and 2nd- How long can I reasonably expect to be able to pass as "male" once I start HRT? Months? A couple of years? Thanks!
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justmeinoz

It is impossible to say really. HRT is so variable in it's results and rate of change.

Judging by my experience, if you get facial hair removal, then you could go a couple of months before changes become impossible to hide.   Without it you could go perhaps 6 months, before bodily changes intrude.Boobs that is. 

Karen.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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JohnnieRamona

Wow. That quickly? I'm not "skinny" by any means (5'7", about 220). I wonder if that would make obvious visual cues (like breasts) occur more or less quickly. Thanks for the info!
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Padma

(Speaking as a fellow tomboy... :)) people are not going to clock you as not being a man, if you keep dressing in man-clothes - it's the default setting in people's minds. Especially if you're not skinny, you can pass off budding boobs as 'man-boobs' for quite a while. Lack of facial hair will just make you look like a younger, softer-faced man for quite some time. Changes may be visible sooner, but how people interpret those changes is all down to context.

It's up to you how you want to adjust your presentation, and when. I'm still getting mostly assumed to be male, because I'm 6'3" and not feminine in my choice of women's attire.
Womandrogyne™
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Tanya

you can stay in 'boy mode' for a very long time.  Its up to you.  Beach and pools become very complicated, but most people will not figure it out unless you hit them over the head with it.
Tanya
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sandrauk

Quote from: pose007 on July 12, 2012, 08:12:40 AM
you can stay in 'boy mode' for a very long time.  Its up to you.  Beach and pools become very complicated, but most people will not figure it out unless you hit them over the head with it.
Tanya

+1

People may notice. I had three comments

Your skin is soft
You don't have much beard shadow
Your bum/thighs  look big

None of which led to anyone saying: are you trans?

I did get: you have long hair, long manicured nails, you pluck your eyebrows: are you trans?

Incidentally why does everyone seem to mention laser? I bought a £30 home electrolysis and did my own only took a couple of months and it never came back.
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JohnnieRamona

This is all solid info- Thanks! I hear so much about the mental and emotional benefits of HRT, and it would be nice to experience that even if I'm still presenting as male...
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Adrasteia

Quote from: sandrauk on July 12, 2012, 08:30:12 AM

Incidentally why does everyone seem to mention laser? I bought a £30 home electrolysis and did my own only took a couple of months and it never came back.
For facial hair? How thick was yours? Any specific product recommendations? :)
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sandrauk

Quote from: Adrasteia on July 12, 2012, 09:29:43 AM
For facial hair? How thick was yours? Any specific product recommendations? :)

Yes facial hair. I did some of my body hair but it was difficult to see where exactly the hairshaft was. I would say my hair is average thickness but the thick hairs seemed easier. I did have trouble around my mouth, that really stings.

It was a long time ago but I think I bought it from Argos- don't think posting links is allowed but if you look up one touch electrolysis on ebay that looks like the one.
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Adrasteia

Thanks, I'll check it out. :)

My girlfriend would probably be the one doing it because she has a sick fascination with things like plucking hairs.
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Padma

sandrauk, you can post links once you have 15 posts or more - so long as the links don't contravene the house rules :).
Womandrogyne™
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Alainaluvsu

I did this. I just let the hormones change me until strangers saw more girl in me than guy. I started getting confused looks in boy mode around the 6-7th month, and started getting maam'd around the 7-8th month in. The day before I went full time, I got seen as a girl while I was in boy mode with facial hair, no makeup, and while not even trying to use a female voice. That's when I knew it's time to transition.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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JohnnieRamona

Alaina- Good to know it's not such a nutty way to transition. You look stunning now :)
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Alainaluvsu

Aww thanks :)

I think it's a smart way to do it. Don't ever force things, you'll regret it.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Maja.V

I'm over 9 months through HRT and still sporting boy mode. Yes, my chest is difficult to hide, but having been a chubster before, I have a lot of really large t-shirts and puffy jeans, so I can hide all my curves. As far as passing goes, my hair is a curly, tangled mess, which doesn't really help trying to come off as a girl, though I've had many people staring at me, probably thinking either "Is it a guy or a girl?" or "Damn, that's one ugly guy / girl". I've quite a few masculine facial features, so meh.
It's also worth mentioning that I've had 5 sessions of laser hair removal done on my face, and there's pretty much almost nothing left, apart from a few stray hairs (mostly discolored ones, which aren't affected by laser anyway).

kim58

This is exactly my current situation as well.  What I'm most afraid of is how long can I actually keep quite before the changes are so profound?
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Penny Gurl

Well as you may know this is also my plan.  So far, two and a half months and all is well, granted I do have to wear slightly baggier shirts since I am starting to devlope up top, also I have to take a bit more care when I have my camera and camera bag since it does hurt a bit when all that weight presses down on my chest.  But I just got back from a week on the road with an event company and my roommate on the trip nor anyone else noticed or said anything... I do have longer hair for a guy but most people dodn't seem to notice anything odd, but since I'm a photographer I think most people let it go as an 'artist' thing.  I get more weird looks when I go out wearing my Vebrums but that's people looking at my feet.  I have noticed that dress shirts seem to have a little more 'breathing' room.  I start laser at the end of this month so I'm guessing after that it may be more of a challange.  All in all I think you'll be ok. :)
"My dad and I used to be pretty tight. The sad truth is, my breasts have come between us."

~Angela~
My So-Called Life
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Rita

I am about 7-months in atm,  when they do electrolysis on my mustache(the rest of my face is extremely thinned out) your face automatically looks younger, without the appearance of dark and gray areas your face becomes more feminine.  Same thing would happen to a biological guy who is not transitioning.

Overall male clothes are looser, baggy, don't show off female curvature.  If you wear a tight shirt its still not cut for female proportions so at worst people might think you have some "man handles".  Minute you step into a female outfit, especially after electrolysis has done its magic it will be impossible to hide obviously.  Even with the minimal amount of fat distribution you will just look like a girl thats not very curvy.

At the 7 month mark in my personal experience which would be shared by those that experience decent breasts growth its becoming hard to hide them even in male clothing.  They stick out further than even my beer gut.  Tbh this is more embarrassing though, being in guy clothes without a bra on and larger breasts feels really wrong.  Ive had someone stare on the train and this was in guy clothes.  Once you have breasts it almost doesn't matter if you have a little facial stubble.  Once your releasing pheromones guys will subconsciously glance at you without even realizing it, even if they have no interest because obviously they still see you as a guy but nature doesn't lie.

For reference I just turned 26 years old.

For more reference those that are close to me, and see me every day have not noticed at all.  Good thing about breast lumps and boy clothes is many people will probably just think under the shirt your a fat guy with man boobs xD 

That being said there is many  girl clothes that can pass as tomboyish or guyish.  Even jeans if you don't get em too tight.  You don't need to be a girly girl and wear super girly clothes even after you've transitioned.  Heck you can be a butch! though many of us don't want to go that path xD

There are many feminizing things you can do as well that can keep you in boy mode, one is thinning your eye brows, manicures, wearing concealer for mustache hairs.  Getting a very nice androgynous hair style, perhaps androgynous with a feminine tilt.  Shaving/Waxing body hairs really REALLY boosts confidence and the feeling of rightness.

Its taken be 6 months to walk through the female clothing section without feeling nervous about everyone looking at me.  I still haven't gotten by fated hair cut, and I still haven't thinned out my eye brows.  Things take time, but everything you do makes you feel more confident.  Some people transition in a day, some take longer based on personality.
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JohnnieRamona

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delia_dunno

Tomboy,

You had replied to a comment of mine on this same issue in a different thread. I find many of the suggestions here very helpful.

Thanks!
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