Quote from: UCBerkeleyPostop on July 30, 2012, 10:08:11 PM
San Francisco.
Some people might consider San Francisco and Berkeley strange. I just consider the area normal.
I did not say that queer women don't use the terms--although butch/femme is the usual dichotomy- I said the terms were a gay male construct--which they are--and are irrelevant to me As well, the terms are heteronormative, phallocentric and contributory to male hegemony.
Butch/femme is not the same thing... It can correlate but it doesn't have to. There are definitely butch bottoms and femme tops. Also switch and andro make neither of those a dichotomy exactly. I'm sure you probably know that...
*Shrug* You totally don't have to like them. That's cool. But it's odd to say they are phallocentric when you're talking about a situation without a dick. The words took a side trip through the BDSM community and acquired more of a "sexually dominant/aggressive," "sexually submissive/passive" meaning to them that queer women picked up. They are hardly penis-specific in that context. It's also a bit odd to say they are heteronormative in the same breath you point out they were originated by gay men.
I also find it strange that you list simply the fact that they come out of the male side of the queer community as a point against them. There is lots of word-sharing that goes on across the gender divide. Like "gay," for example.
But, like I said, you totally aren't required to like them or use them. There are plenty of terms in the queer community that I kind of hate.