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Started by ladygretchen, January 14, 2006, 09:47:14 PM

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ladygretchen

hello all,
i just wanted to ask what anyone else noticed on hormones thier first week.i'm self medicating and i understand the risk,but i couldn't stand to not do it any longer.if anything i've noticed that i'm a lot less angry or aggressive.is this typical?
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Cassandra

Hello Gretchen,

Welcome to Susan's. Perhaps you could pop over to intorductions and tell us all a litttle more about yourself. You are certianly going to be setting off alarm bells here. You should be aware that here at Susan's we do not condone self medicating. HRT can be very devastating to your health if not properly monitored by a physician. Let me just say that you should stop immediately and get a proper medical prescription from a doctor who will be able to monitor the effects.

Firstly you are doing yourself no favors as proper introduction of the drugs to your system at specific dosages are necessary for optimal affects. What ever combination you are taking may be wasting much of your medication. Also as you are self medicating the efficacy of the drug may be less than optimal as is usually the case with illeagaly obtained drugs.

Before you start let me caution you now not to discuss dosages here in this forum. Such comments are a rule violation. I'm sure you don't want to start off breaking the rules. Be sure you read the site rules. There is a section in the Wiki which discusses what one should expect from taking hormones. You might want to look there for the answers to your questions.

Some things you might expect from un monitored self medicating are:

Liver damage
Kidney damage
Heart attack
Stroke

As to the calming effect you describe that is not uncommon in the first week. It will be a long time before you see any physical changes. I wish you well and hope that you reconsider your current course of action. You should read some of the many posts on this subject. I'm sure Teri Gene will be along soon to point out some of the things she has discussed in various areas of this forums. In the meantime fix yourself a cup of tea or other relaxing beverage, sit down, take your shoes off and set a spell.

Good Journey

Cassie
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Terri-Gene

Yeah, I'll bite, hormone saftety, even with proper supervision and medical supervisionit is a subject I'm all to familiar with on personal levels and medical experience and I think even the idea of self medication is a rejection of mental competency.  ie dummer then rock bottom stupidity.

Quoteif anything i've noticed that i'm a lot less angry or aggressive.is this typical?

With only one week on hormones though I would have fully serious doubts you have any effects at all though for some time yet.  I could be wrong, but not at all very likely so.  Most take months before anything happens at all that can be seriously and objectively measured, both mental and physically.

that generally happens in most cases in male to female transitioners, but usually over an extended amount of time due to changes in the minds perception of living in a world that you were formally more affraid of because of trains of thought about it not being accepting of your wishes to transition and because of different ways of viewing the world about you and your new relationship with yourself.  In short, you change and so your reactions to the world about you change, in some cases quite drastically, in others, little at all.  It just depends on how and what kind of person you were before.

Keep in mind also that regardless of what others have told you about thier own dosages of the various drugs necessary that information may not be applicable to any other person in general.  If I told you my exact medication and dosage information you would go a lifetime and never see any result at all unless it amounted to medical problems, if you took my dosage advice on what I was taking a couple of years ago you would probably be dead in less then a year.  It all depends on the condition of your body and how it is equipped to handle such drugs, so unless you have been blood tested and the amounts customized to your body and needs you are simply spinning a wheel.

Then too there is simply the question of what you are taking and are you taking all you need and what you need to provide the proper body reactions.  I can only assume you may have consulted people you have met or forums you have read where people talk about such things and may give thier own information or information they have heard from people who actually could not tell the difference from a premarin pill and an estrodiol or what the dosage of a premarin pill was from a quick glance at it.  BELIEVE that statement.  As Cassie already told you this is dangerous territory and those that don't enter into it with proper supervision are taking one of the greatest risks in thier lives even if they feel perfectly fine a few moments before the roof caves in.

Quote.i'm self medicating and i understand the risk,but i couldn't stand to not do it any longer.

Another one who doesn't have a clue about what they really want in life, how to achieve something worth achieving as an end result and despite that statement does not understand in the least the risks being taken.

In the first place consider that without going through proper channels it may become near or totally impossible to ever achieve surgery if that is what is ultimately desired if lacking the proper documentation of true GID condition and even if you later seek proper channels may make a therapyst or doctor hisitant of perscribing to you as you have already demonstrated a tendancy to be irresponsible in following proper instructions and dosages posing an ethical compromise to the Dr. who is ultimately responsible for your health and mental condition during Hormone use.

So you know about risks.  Ok, I won't bother you and all you know about the many serious things that can happen, even under the best of medical supervision and care,  Look around the threads about such things if you care for a refresher on this subject.

There is one big guestion you ultimately have to ask yourself.  What is the purpose of your taking hormones.  Are you looking to fix a problem in your life with the idea that this is the only thing you can do to be a happy functioning individual?  or are you simply playing some silly self destructive game of wanting to look more "feminine".  There is only one answer to this question that justifies the use of hormones dangerous or not.

Anyway as long as you already know what you are doing and are aware of all this risks I'll give you the only advice about it I can responsibly give.  Take your self medicated chemicals and stuff then up some dark place rather then ruin yourself with them.

Don't take me as personally attacking you in anyway, but do to all extent believe that I am attacking and rejecting your methode of using hormones.  It is insane and we see to many going through here who do not have a clue what they are doing and risking by self medication.  Some here perfectly know better about such things, but then, what do those of us with the education, doctors advice, instruction and medical care and even some of the consiquences of dangerous hormone use possibilities know about anything?  You do what you want and will, the rest of us will just go on being and becoming women living the real life of a woman with the ability and bodily function to do so in good health.

deep enough bite on the subject of self medication?

Terri
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Kimberly

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Self medication is frowned upon here for a very good reason. Even if you want to ignore the life threatening issues you do yourself a disservice with the wrong regimen. Unless you are a medical professional who has dealt with HRT before then YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED to determine your own regimen. Your life though...

Regardless though, there is a lot going on when one starts HRT and not all of it is hormonal. (stress, etc.)

[edit]Speeling hard.[/edit]
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stephanie

The self-medicating lecture aside (as it was adequately covered already), I have been on estrogen for about 11 days now, and just started taking the t-blockers.  I've noticed a somewhat opposite effect, in that I was calm and very quiet before, and lately I've been getting angry over the smallest things and losing my temper with people a lot more.  Anyone who knows me would agree that this just isn't who I used to be.

My breasts are a little more sensitive, and I swear I'm seeing a change in shape but no actual growth yet.  I could just be imagining things, as has been suggested in my own HRT thread.
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Terri-Gene

QuoteI was calm and very quiet before, and lately I've been getting angry over the smallest things and losing my temper with people a lot more

Sounds like a stress problem.  Look into whats going on in your life and think things through when you are alone and talk about these things with your therapyst.  many feelings can come forward quite easily once hormones are started, it's like climing on a catapult and lowering a knife to cut the bonds that hold it.  The future is unclear and you realise there are many problems to resolve in the trip that soon begins.  Some of these problems have already been reasoned with but there are others you are still waiting to face and you haven't determined the best methodes to use yet.  it all gets to you.

Probably just a matter of finally letting go and every sense you have is alert and vibrating.  Try to take it easy and ride it out.  There are times it will feel better and there are times when it seems you have to hit bottom before you can see which way is up.  There is no easy way and everyone does it differently.  Above all, think before you act, on anything until you get everything measured out and placed in its own comfortable spot.  Things will change, sometimes better and sometimes worse and through it all you will change, often in ways you would never have thought you would or could.  It's a new world out there.

Terri
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