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Single Male Adoptions almost impossible apparently

Started by Stewie, August 10, 2012, 07:46:46 AM

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Stewie

Today I guess I woke up curious. I AM engaged at the moment but I was wondering what if anything happened. I have ALWAYS wanted children. And I have always felt like adoption was something I wanted. So I was thinking, what if I was single after transitioning? My mom worked with deaf children and special needs children as a teacher and she loves it and I thought that it would be amazing to adopt one of these children internationally that generally people just don't want to adopt. Well, surprise surprise. Preference is given to married couples of course, and single women are given SOME opportunities. But they don't even bother mentioning single men. I can't even imagine what would happen if they found out I was FTM. Probably just throw my application away honestly.
I mean, I'm obviously not a pervert. I would raise that kid as if he/she were really mine. It just saddens me I suppose. I was just looking at internatiounal adoption services obviously but I doubt domestic adoptions in the U.S. are gonna be any different.

I'm just wondering what your take on this is
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henrytwob

Actually NPR just had a segment on international adoption. International adoption is getting hard for all. If you are willing to adopt or even foster ( which can lead to adoption) a special needs kids, depending on the state you live in, you may be just fine. I know Florida has an anti-gay clause in their adoptions, but many states don't. Not that we  or you are gay, just a mention on how they feel about diversity)Additionally states are under increasing pressure to move these kids. Plus, as single women can adopt, I think there would be significant grounds for an anti-discrimination case if states allow single women to adopt then not allowing single men would be inequality under the law.

one could also see about a private adoption. Most women want couples, but you never know.

it is an interesting question.
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Natkat

where I live you can't adopt as a single man,
neither as a full time transgender who got there gendermarked changed.

So yeah it sucks, I thought that if adoption isnt posible you can always help by taking care of kids playing some kind of parrent role. One of my friends got 3 mothers and 1 father,
biologically she sure only got 1 father and mother, but her mother is with another woman, and her ex girlfriend also played part of her grown up, in that way there all famely related to her and spending time with her.

also know another of my friends who had troubles with her home parrents so her uncle (I think) and his boyfriend are taking care of her for most parts and then she visit her parrents once in a while.

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Devlyn

It would be nice if the only requirement was that the child be raised with love.
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RagingShadow

i really hope ill be able to. i hope to adopt a child on the autism spectrum someday. but i have some time before im ready/old enough, so hopefully things will have changed for the better :)
--Kayden



Youtube:TeenFTM (formerly KaydenTransGuy)
my Gender Therapist was Dr. Laura Caghan in Los Alamitos, CA. She is AMAZING.
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aleon515

Older child adoption? A lot of people want babies or very young toddler. So you might have luck wiht something like a school aged child.

--Jay Jay
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Arch

I've always figured that people like us are better off having our own (I know, ick for many of us) or adopting well before we transition.

A single man might well be allowed to adopt an older special needs kid if he is willing to jump through a lot of hoops, but a single trans man? I hate to say it, but I think that's unlikely. Still, you never know--do your homework now and see what information you turn up.

ETA: Of course, some of us don't transition...
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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RagingShadow

well, many years before i'm out of school and with a steady job, so maybe things will change. and i changed everything in adolescence, so maybe that will help. who knows, maybe ill settle down with someone? so that would be a big plus
i always figured i'd adopt or apply for guardianship or similar of my cousin. he's only a bit younger than me, but I don't want him to be thrown in an institution when his parents get too old/die ( he has autism and is very low functioning)
--Kayden



Youtube:TeenFTM (formerly KaydenTransGuy)
my Gender Therapist was Dr. Laura Caghan in Los Alamitos, CA. She is AMAZING.
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Darth_Taco

International adoption tends to be very picky, but people choose it because you have to go through less lawyers and ironically you're more likely to get a kid that looks like you. You're better off going with domestic foster care adoption. A lot of these kids end up never finding a loving home and end up aging out of the system at the age of 18, so it makes you an awesome person to go through this option. Many agencies out there work specifically with the LGBT community, and some even work specifically with LGBT kids since they're harder to place.
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aleon515

The idea of foster care might be good. It depends where you live though. Some cities may have laws/rules promoting LBGT foster care and there are, of course, LBGT kids needing foster care. OTOH, just because there are rules and laws doesn't necessarily mean it will be easy.

--Jay Jay
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lilacwoman

In the UK the social services make it so hard for anyone to adopt that there are thousands of kids stuck in care and orphanages who really do need to be with a good family or a single who could care for them but thanks to a few abusers and pedos the social workers play God and keep anyone from adopting - and some of them ensure that white people can't adopt coloured kids thanks to reverse racial integration as it is though that putting a coloured baby with white people may make the kid lose out on being coloured - or something equally stupid.

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aleon515

@lilacwoman-- things are not so different on the other side of the pond. The one thing that may be different is that because regions and states are so different from each other you can actually seem to live in two different worlds. I can't imagine that living in California would be anywhere at all similar to living in Alabama-- to pick two extremes.

--Jay Jay
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Amazon D

I know its not the same thing but i have used www.childfund.org and worldvision.org and i still have grethyl who is now 14 and cheelo aged out.. both from lusaka zambia .. i asked for the kids in the country  no one wanted..
I'm an Amazon womyn + very butch + respecting MWMF since 1999 unless invited. + I AM A HIPPIE

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Raya

Quote from: chipper on August 12, 2012, 02:52:16 PM
WOULDN'T IT? All you need is love, all you need is love, all you need is love, love, love is all you need.
The problem is, who gets to define 'love'? For a good part of my extended family, 'love' meant beating the femininity out of me every time they spotted it.

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dky

This is a totally fascinating topic.
I'm dealing with trying to figure out family issues though they are different than these. My gf is trying to get pregnant. In my state, there is a law that allows lesbians to both be listed as  birth parents on a childs birth certificate.ie two female bodied people can be birth parents legally. I'm pre everything currently but about to start hormones. My gf thinks we can use this law to get me on the birth certificate as a legal parent as I am technically female bodied. I'm considerably less than thrilled at using a law meant for lesbians, but if it actually would protect my legal status as our kids parent, id consider it. I think it wouldn't however, I think my being trans would exclude me either at the birth or later, say when I change my birth certificate. I think me adopting her child is a much better option legally and um in not making me feel like crap. the only benefit to the lesbian law one is its free, adoption obviously costs a fair amount and I may not be able to afford it right away. I think I finally helped my gf understand why only adoption actually protected us. Also why her thinking that law forte lesbians was the answer, was hurtful to me. Still, love to hear others thoughts.
Oh and if you are in a state that lets glbt people foster or adopt, you should be able to as a single man but expect every aspect to be way more strenous.fostering is usually a quick process but if you only want to adopt the process takes a few years for anyone, fyi. But fostering can lead to adoption, adopting older children, special needs kids will help you get a kid faster once you are approved approval will probably take a long ass time. Thats for state adoptions. Finding a private agency specializing in lgbt parents is undoubtedly fastest, unless your 14yrs old niece gets pregnant and wants to give you her baby... Hopefully someone is laughing.
"Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible." HH Dali Lama
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dky

@raging shadow
You don't need to adopt your cousin to have him live with you and you take care of him. You have to petition the court to become a legal guardian for him. That will require proof he can't be responsible for himself and proof that you can, but also that living with you will be better for him than living anywhere else. If his parents were happy for you to do this it would likely help but mainly they judge it based on how well your cousin is likely to do in any given available situation compared against the others. Your being trans may or may not be an issue depending on if anyone is against you becoming guardian and what kind if protective laws exist for trans people where you live along with the general political and social attitude toward trans people in your area as well. I was a contractor for child welfare in my state, I learned a bunch of stuff. Keep in mind, laws and ways of assigning guardianship etc change sometimes and are state even county matters sometimes.ie local, with local laws behind them. Best of luck.
"Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible." HH Dali Lama
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aleon515

Yeah dk is right. I think legal guardianship is not as difficult as adoption (a big deal to do, in terms of responsibility). Hopefully being trans will not be an issue. Different states are so different (depends if you are US citizen-- don't really know) about this stuff.

I think you would be an awesome father for an autistic kid when the time comes.

--Jay Jay
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