Last night at a bar...

[MadelineB]

OMG Maddie, you just crack me up!



LOL...well we shall see. Hopefully we'll meet up in a couple weeks and you can show me how to "draw down the radiance", since you're so full of it yourself...LOL omg, did I really just say that?!

Portland is a big place, I've heard...

You just made me chortle.
1. Yes, I always seem to be full of something!
2. Yes, Portland is a big place, which is why my head fits in it.
3. Can't wait to meet you sister!

[Kitty_Babe]

ok, can't say I have had any experience like that..! not to question your sexuality OP, but are you sure you envied their bodies, or is it also a sexual attraction your experiencing ? Your description of what you feel makes me think that. But no offense to you either way ! (Sorry I do speak my mind from time to time).

Don't actually feel jealous of women, in general, in fact that walk, and posture, is some thing we all should have, its just 101 knowing how to carry yourself as a woman. (In this case) also appealing towards people you see as potential friends and partners. also people giving comments like that was actually pretty rude.

Your every bit a woman as they are, we all have different body shapes, just learn to accept your body as its changing if your transitioning, and ways to improve your overall looks, if you think you need a make over

Some times I see other women and think "yeah she looks pretty good" so you cant help but wonder what it is they use, or what they did to get a certain good looking skin, or make-up effect. Your a woman ! chat and ask them. Women do this all the time, "how do you do that - what do you use ?!" type things.

Get over the body shapes hang over, their really is nothing to worry about, and especially for the fact that, were all different we all have different "shapes" but also men and women alike do not all go for one certain type, we all have a "type" that we go for !

Catherine <3

[Beth Andrea]

not to question your sexuality OP, but are you sure you envied their bodies, or is it also a sexual attraction your experiencing ?

It's a bit of both.

I envy bodies that are luscious (clearly understanding the "body" and "mind" are two different things...but from 20' away one cannot sense the mind), and sexually, well they're HOT. (Not as a former male; indeed "that part" doesn't even bother a mention)

In theory, one should find any given person just as physically attractive as the next...after all, everyone has the same parts, more or less. (Of course, given the realities of "preference" and/or "orientation"). But the reality is that given a safe distance, the body is the first part one sees...and a "hot" body is much better visually than a "not so hot" body.

imho

Now, as to what to DO with said body...there's a thread elsewhere about fantasies etc. when one sees others at a distance...very interesting read.

[JulieC.]

Well, that was an awful thing she said to you.  It makes me wonder if she was jealous of you.  Some people insult others to make themselves look or feel better.  Is it possible that was what was happening here?

there's bound to be somebody in the room who's jealous of YOU!

- Agree!

One thing I've noticed about cis women is that they always compliment each other.  They usually find something like...I love your ring, what a great purse, that hair color looks great on you.  The insults get hurled behind the other woman's back.  Or maybe I just know a lot of hypocritical women.

[Jeatyn]

One thing I've noticed about cis women is that they always compliment each other.  They usually find something like...I love your ring, what a great purse, that hair color looks great on you.  The insults get hurled behind the other woman's back.  Or maybe I just know a lot of hypocritical women.

I've noticed this in pretty much every female social group I've been a part of, it's really weird o_o

[Brooke777]

We were at a local LBGTQ bar and having a good time...then my anxieties kicked in and caused me some problems.

Neverminding "my" unique issues, one of the big aggravators of the evening was pure, insane jealousy. Several of the T-girls had exceptionally good figures (think "flat stomach! OMG  " ), good posture and walking skills (in high heels, no less!  )...and charming personalities.

Then there were the cis-girls. Lesbians? Maybe. Bi? Maybe. Cute, pretty, LITTLE? Yes! OMG they flexed, bent, and twisted their various major body parts in such a cute, pretty, and LITTLE cis-girl way...I felt huge and out-of-place next to them.   

Then I had a CD lady talk to me about how I needed "over the top" makeup, and that I had a seriously "guy" face. I know that--and I know that my makeup isn't superb, but hey it works (for me)...and I do appreciate any honest feedback...but after that and seeing so many attractive women--cis and trans--sort of encouraged me to dissociate and leave early.

Wondering if others have had this, and how one deals with it?

I thought her comments were quite rude as well. I mean who is she to comment, she looks more mannish than you ever could even if you dressed like a guy! I did not talk with her the rest of the night after she made that comment, and I told one of the other ladies how rude I thought she was for saying that to you. You are not huge btw. You looked quite nice. I am sorry you felt so bad.

[Arike]

In my experience too many transexuals are too busy being jealous at each other, instead of making a life of their own and that's terrible

That's one of the reasons I tend to avoid (LBG)T-meetings nowadays. Actually, the only exception I currently make, is for a monthly evening organized by a friend of mine, because I want to support her efforts

[Brooke777]

In my experience too many transexuals are too busy being jealous at each other, instead of making a life of their own and that's terrible

That's one of the reasons I tend to avoid (LBG)T-meetings nowadays. Actually, the only exception I currently make, is for a monthly evening organized by a friend of mine, because I want to support her efforts

In my opinion, there were no transsexuals at the bar that Beth should have been jealous of. She is far more feminine than the other women there.

[Beth Andrea]

In my opinion, there were no transsexuals at the bar that Beth should have been jealous of. She is far more feminine than the other women there.

Well...besides you. You're beautiful, Brooke! 

And I was jealous of the cis-women near the lounge, not "our" crowd. 

[Brooke777]

Thanks hun. And I am glad you were not talking about our crowd. I would like to look like some of the other women there as well.