Do I qualify as Non-Op?

[Tomboy Transgirl]

I'm a pre-everything transwoman, and while I hope to start transitioning soon, SRS is at the VERY bottom of my to-do list. I can envision wanting to have a vagina at some distant point in the future, but at least for now I am totally ok with the idea of being a woman with a penis. Is there anyone like me around here? Would be nice to know I'm not alone.

[JenJen2011]

You qualify as whatever you want to qualify as. Labels aren't so important anyway, IMO. Just do what will make you happy.

[Cindy Stephens]

There are a lot here, and in the real world, just like you.  Do what you want to make yourself happy and gives you your "best life."  Many girls find that Hormone treatments alone are enough to stop the dysphoria.  I do. We are as fully transsexual (by the various medically accepted standards) as those who require SRS for personal relief.   Why complicate it with surgeries if that doesn't improve your own personal life?  My understanding is that we are a higher percentage than those who go on to  SRS.  One word of warning, there is a contingent of "SRS or death!" proponents who will attempt to undermine your existence and impose their ideas on you.  Ignore them.  Their tea-party like tactics can be a bit unnerving, but we have the right to our own reality and happiness.  I hope you find YOUR way, and you land where you were intended to be.

[cynthialee]

You have really just started.

Worry less about labels for now and focus instead on finding what you need to be happy.

After you figure it all out then you can worry about which particular sub division of trans you are.

[Cindy Stephens]

While it may be a bad thing to nail yourself to any particular classification, it is at least a good thing to be aware of the various types.  See Wikipedia, Benjamin scale.  These scales are different in the various "expert" pronouncements, but at least it is a start.  Look at type 4.   It is very different from "fetishistic ->-bleeped-<-."  Some posters here have tried to paste all non-op into that category, then accuse them of being perverts.  Knowing the types can at least give you a foundation of support.  Transition, even the most basic, non-surgical kind can be very expensive: dollar-wise as well as socially.  Having a plan helps.  You cannot make a plan if you don't know where you are trying to get to.  Maybe you will eventually change your mind.  That's when you change the plan.  It is also much easier to resist social pressures if you have good, competent, scientific backup, whether that pressure is from parents, priests or if it is from the "SRS or death" brain police.  Of course, you may find that you are SRS bound.  If you are good luck.  Just don't feel that you have too just to "fit in."

[JoanneB]

SRS has always been on the bottom of my to-do list. As I got older the desire for surgery lessened. In my case what is, or isn't, inside my panties has very little to do with feeling better about who I am, being seen as who I want to be, and not being chased by a mob with pitch forks and torches into the old mill are of foremost importance.  Surgery is never going to bring that about for me. Perhaps a minor benefit towards how I feel about myself and my body. But that will be long after abdominoplasty and maybe BA as far as bang for the buck goes.

As others have said, at the end of the day we are transsexuals. Period. Worry about feeling better about yourself and not about someone else's arbitrary set of rules of who or how your life should be run.

[Mahsa Tezani]

SRS has always been on the bottom of my to-do list. As I got older the desire for surgery lessened. In my case what is, or isn't, inside my panties has very little to do with feeling better about who I am, being seen as who I want to be, and not being chased by a mob with pitch forks and torches into the old mill are of foremost importance.  Surgery is never going to bring that about for me.

Being a woman is beyond the sum of her parts...srs or no srs.

[Joeyboo~ :3]

I don't want SRS, but I do want an orchi.
If hormones are going to make me sterile than whats the point of having testis, amirite?

Plus with no T production, you become more feminized and whatnot.

[lynn27]

Yes, if you like having a label. i prefer being me, not worrying about where i was and where i am going.

I'm a pre-everything transwoman, and while I hope to start transitioning soon, SRS is at the VERY bottom of my to-do list. I can envision wanting to have a vagina at some distant point in the future, but at least for now I am totally ok with the idea of being a woman with a penis. Is there anyone like me around here? Would be nice to know I'm not alone.

[Carolina1983]

I don't want SRS, but I do want an orchi.
If hormones are going to make me sterile than whats the point of having testis, amirite?

Plus with no T production, you become more feminized and whatnot.

I am in the same thinking as you . Why have that sack of evil T-makers there if you are sterile anyway.

And no there will be no SRS for me. The important thing for me is to be seen as a woman, and I do not plan to show the thing downstairs in public anyway.

[annette]

Quote from Cindy Stephens:
One word of warning, there is a contingent of "SRS or death!" proponents who will attempt to undermine your existence and impose their ideas on you.  Ignore them.  Their tea-party like tactics can be a bit unnerving, but we have the right to our own reality and happiness.  I hope you find YOUR way, and you land where you were intended to be.

Well, here is a comment from a post op.
In the first place, everybody has the right to live where they are comfortable with, there is no doubt about that.
I can only speak from my own feelings, if you don't feel the same, okay with me.
For me, it was death or srs, why? Because I wanted to be a woman, not a transsexual but a woman.
I wanted to have intimacy as a woman.
I wanted to be complete, I didn't want something to hide or tucking. I wanted to go to the beach with that minuscule bikini wearing.
For me, it was the end of the long way of transition.

What I don't want is saying that my way is the only way, like I said, everybody must do what they like, if you're happy that way, I should say go for it.
I'm not feeling something more because I had srs, I'm only saying that it forfilled my wishes in life.
I hope your wishes will be forfilled too.

[Cindy Stephens]

annette,
Why do you feel the need to go onto a board for non-ops and tell everyone how it was SRS or death for you and how you had to be a "woman, not a transexual but a woman.  That of course infers that those of us who are non-op are somehow inferior.  Well done with the back handed complement.  Your attitude is EXACTLY what I warned the original poster about.  You have found the truth and have a need to cram it down our throats.   It should be eminently obvious to even the most oblivious, THAT WE DON'T FEEL THE SAME WAY YOU DO!  There are a couple of hundred other threads on this board where people just like you can discuss it.  I read it there.  This thread is for NON-OPS.  We don't need your patronizing, condescending platitudes, thank you very much.  I see absolutely no difference between you and some born-again telling me how Jesus can cure me, and that they don't hate me.  Why can't we have one place for ourselves?

[annette]

Dear Cindy

I think you didn't read well, there is no need to be hostile.
For me everyone is free to do what they want.
If one is satisfied in life, than it's okay.
You take my words in a bad way, so whatever I will say, it's the bad way, just a matter of interpretation.
If you want to excuse me, I won't go further into a childish discussion, doesn't make sense.

I hope you will find your happiness

Annette

[Kevin Peña]

Who cares about what people call you? Just do whatever you want and leave the technicalities out of it to save you a headache. I personally don't want SRS because the ends just don't justify the means. I don't display my genitals to anyone, so what I have is irrelevant. Besides, I don't want to be benched in the recovery stage for months.

Plus, thousands of dollars in saving sounds good to me. 

[patstar]

You qualify as whatever you want to qualify as. Labels aren't so important anyway, IMO. Just do what will make you happy.

I really wish that were true with a lot of people sweetie.  A lot of us say it and aspire to it; but how many of us truly live and practice it? I am asking a question and not making a statement here.

[Joelene9]

  Oooff!  After reading this thread from someone who started this thread and then left the forum group, I hazard to answer from the replies I read.  I am a non-op, but I would like to be a pre-op.  I have too little money and too little support where I am to even think about it.  Any acrimomy towards my genitals had waned since two months into HRT.  I have found no re-entry point towards manhood at this point due to my middle-aged group and their inertia and apathy towards one of their members wanting to change, even if it is toward the better or toward the "norm". 
  Joelene