Conservative transgender

[LilyoftheValley]

Just wondering if anybody is in the same boat as i am, i do identify as MTF but politically i fall into the conservative end of the spectrum, i am deeply saddened by their lack of support and sometimes utter resistance to us, but in honesty i believe their economic, environmental, and other various standpoints just make far more sense than the Democrats, also i believe that the democratic politicians are willing to say anything for our votes, and i dont really believe that they truly give a damn about us, just our voting power. If only there were republicans who could show us some support, that would certainly be interesting, a far more poweful libertarian party, in my opinion, could really help out the USA. Reading about health care in socialistic countries, and the long waits everybody faces just to see a doctor, doesnt really make obamacare sound too appealing to me, because in reality, no matter what is on paper in Obamacare, it faces the realitiess of: limited doctors, limited supply chains, and government intrusion. Hearing stories of transgendered people in other countries with government provided health care having to wait YEARS just to get on HRT shows me that government health care is a load of crap.

[Incarnadine]

Hear, Hear!

[Ave]

JamieD has found his soulmate !

But yeah, I'm sure there are a few if you look around (but not me, I'm left of communist here ).

[Stephe]

They all lie and neither party is "looking out for us".  I do know one party, for the most part, promotes intolerance and hatred. I can't vote for people like that.

It's not "sometimes utter resistance to us", they do NOT like people like us! Can you reference anyone in that party that supports Gay rights or same sex unions? Most of them seem to promote the chick-fil-a agenda.

As far as health care, right now I'm un-insurable because I am TG, not sure how it can get much worse.. I guess if people work someone where that provides health insurance now, good for them but screw everyone else? I'm not sure what the solution is but what we have now is clearly broken for a lot of people.

YMMV but like I said, I can't vote for people who promote intolerance.

[Ms. OBrien CVT]

JamieD has found his soulmate !

But yeah, I'm sure there are a few if you look around (but not me, I'm left of communist here ).

I do think you mean HER soulmate.

And I am a socialist in my beliefs, but I will vote Democratic.

[Kevin Peña]

Ok, I honestly never thought that political parties ever benefited anyone. All that system does is force people to pick a side and be stuck on an issue because they chose a side; basically, they're no longer individuals. I won't go into why exactly universal health care or any other "socialist" policies are good (I honestly feel that communism and socialism are used as bad words to infuriate people, when, if looked at closely, they are both excellent systems if used as they are described, neither being an actual political system, but economic and philosophical).

There is no chance you will agree with everything your party says. Either left or right 100% is complete insanity.

I will now digress from politics, which, honestly, only leads to bickering. Forget your party, be an individual, and just go with what you feel is the most beneficial pathway anywhere in life.

[Ave]

I do think you mean HER soulmate.

And I am a socialist in my beliefs, but I will vote Democratic.

I think JamieD doesn't mind whichever? (correct me if I'm wrong?)

[Jamie D]

His?  Her? When one is bigendered it doesn't matter.  I take no offense at either.

To achieve lasting advances for the GLBTQ community, we must reach out to those who have not previously been inclined to support us.  In each of the major parties there are factions that are extremists, and factions that are reasonable.

The idea is to build bridges rather than walls.  To reach a political consensus, or at least, a working majority.

If this election is like the last few, the GLBTQ community will support the liberal candidates with 2/3rds to 3/4ths of their votes.  The risk is, of course, being locked out of the discourse if the other side wins.

[LilyoftheValley]

Very excellent way of saying it Jamie D, build bridges not walls.I think i would like to use that quote sometime All in all im more about maximum freedom and limited government,but we will never see that with either of the two big parties. i believe clinging to the old "one man one woman" traditions is backwards, but i also believe that big government is unsustainable and leads to nothing for a nation but mediocrity.

[Pretend]

Diana P, thank you.  You are both one of a limited number of people that understand communism and socialism are not a government and that they could work.

As far as parties, I despise the concept, dislike the execution, and loathe the corruption.  I refuse to label myself under a party (and I hate being coined independent) and choose who I deem fit.  Sadly, that's why I don't vote.

I too will make an early exit from this thread.  I wouldn't have been the newb to jump in if Diana didn't get me excited.

[ashley_thomas]

Democrats will continue to be our activists, but if you are fiscal conservative, there is no reason to be a Republican.  Governor Gary Johnson running as the Libertarian candidate is on the ballot in all 50 states and is a self proclaimed fiscal conservative and social liberal, even giving Obama praise on LGBT issues.

[suzifrommd]

big government is unsustainable and leads to nothing for a nation but mediocrity.

This is so true. I believe and that's why I try to consider myself a conservative. Unfortunately, I don't think either of the two parties act as if they believe this so I can't really call either one conservative.

I also believe conservative implies right to privacy and to pursue your personal goals without government interference. I've never understood how this jibes with the gov't telling us what sexual orientation we need to be (at least if we want to marry), or whether we can obtain birth control or reproductive procedures.

So in short, while I like to believe I'm a conservative, I don't find either of the two candidates satisfactory, especially on their commitment to shrink government or adopting conservative (debt free) fiscal behavior.

[Beth Andrea]

Two quick thoughts from me on (American) politics:

Neither party is good for America. (I will note that other countries typically have 20-30 parties, and they all have to work together--"coalitions"--in order to pass legislation. America, supposedly the land of diversity and free speech, can only muster up 2?)

"Big government" is not what leads to mediocrity. Empire is what does this. We are an Empire.

DianaP's post is spot-on, imho.

[Snowpaw]

Well all I'll say is this. One side is actively going against us. The other isn't. While I can see that neither is any good, I will certainly side with the one who somewhat actively works for our rights. Just saying. Siding with the side who is full of people who hate us is like shooting yourself and everyone else like you in the foot.

[Sarah Louise]

If I vote it will be for Romney, unfortunately if I don't vote (or if I vote for the Libretarian) it is almost like a vote for Obama and there is no way I can do that.

I don't vote single issues, so just because Obama "pretends" to be for LGBT doesn't overshadow his poor economic views and other things.

[Snowpaw]

If I vote it will be for Romney, unfortunately if I don't vote (or if I vote for the Libretarian) it is almost like a vote for Obama and there is no way I can do that.

I don't vote single issues, so just because Obama "pretends" to be for LGBT doesn't overshadow his poor economic views and other things.

Obama=faker
Romney being true

Not sure if serious

[Hikari]

I generally tell my conservative friends to vote libertarian, while I find their views to be very hard to swallow being a Socialist I think it is better. Mainly because my conservative friends really are libertarians, they do.t want to see the church integrated into the government or massive spending from the government on defense and grants to faith based institutions, but there is a strong faction in the republican party that does.

Of course I do have a few moderate friends who want to call themselves conservatives, Eisenhower republicans perhaps, but after the 1964 convention I think they might as well be "blue dog" democrats, even then I get the feeling that the conservative wing of the democratics has weekend dramatically in the last 10 years.

Despite being unhappy with the CPUSA, I generally follow thier recommended candidates, which these years is usually the democrats for all but a few local elections. So while I am not conservative by any means I can feel the pain of voting for a party I by and large disagree with.

[dalebert]

I will only be voting in the presidential election to eek out my tiny voice amongst millions as a protest against the status quo. I have no unreasonable faith that my vote can actually change anything or have any real impact. The two major parties are both maintaining the status quo and there will be no dramatic changes from either of them. Hence, I'll probably vote for Gary Johnson. I just can't muster up a sh*t to give whether Obama or Romney wins. They both suck, and mostly in the same ways. Although one good thing I could see from Romney winning is that a lot of liberals will become anti-war again. A lot of the most hardcore war protesters now love all the drones blowing up kids and and occupying and new wars and Gitmo continuing full-stream-ahead now that Bush is gone and Obama's in charge. Ugh.

[SarahM777]

My problem is that I am a conservative on some issues,liberal on others, and just down right in the middle on others. Very few true moderates left. It's gotten to be far left and far right and it seems so little common sense.  (That's what happens when you have lawyers and rich people running the country) 

[Stephe]

My problem is that I am a conservative on some issues,liberal on others, and just down right in the middle on others. Very few true moderates left. It's gotten to be far left and far right and it seems so little common sense.  (That's what happens when you have lawyers and rich people running the country)

^ This. I am financially conservative but socially liberal. There doesn't seem to be anyone on that platform and many seem to just be SOOOO extreme either left or right.