The "Does my voice pass?" thread

[Beverly]

How is it that everyone hears a passable voice and I don't?

I have not listened to your sample yet (I'm at work and do my posts in between work stuff) but maybe your problem is the same as mine - everyone else's voice sounds better 

The grass is always greener.....?

[Apples Mk.II]

Off topic: Anyone who is doing voice might like to read this https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,127024.0.html or offer tips to the OP, especially if you have done the Kathe Perez course.

Updated. The first thing I wanted to do was find my vocal range and see where I can work. This is where I currently stand:

- Natural default pitch: 100 hz
- Current default pitch: 140 hz
- Vocal "break to falsetto" point: 200 hz
- Vocal Range I use for talking: 120-200 hz.

And that is if know how to measure it, which I am not really sure.

My standard voice:

I don't know if I am physically able to do it, bur A3/220 is beyond my possibilities for now. No samples for now, it's just a man / teen voice, a bit higher pitched than usual.

[Isabelle]

Crt, are you able to "hum" an A3?

[Apples Mk.II]

Crt, are you able to "hum" an A3?

No. I can only hum up to F3/G3. If I try to get to A3, I notice the falsetto sound and it hurts a lot. I also constant throat mucosity, a deviated septum, nose slightly bent and I can only use one nostril to breath. They are supposed to take some radiographies of it during the next month. And that's why I am so worried about the voice: Not exactly a decent breathing system that really ->-bleeped-<-s my outdoor cardio trainings.

[Isabelle]

Well the good news is its only 2 whole tones from F3 to A3, I'm sure there's a way to do it it might help if you upload an audio clip of you just humming up to where your break is, that way people might have a better idea of the problem you're having and hopefully might have some tips for ways you can work around it

[Beverly]

Well the good news is its only 2 whole tones from F3 to A3, I'm sure there's a way to do it

Just gently keep pushing at it, but do not strain it, just keep trying to get higher for a few minutes at a time, two or three times a day. Give yourself a few weeks. Patience is the key. Do not rush this.

[Apples Mk.II]

Well the good news is its only 2 whole tones from F3 to A3, I'm sure there's a way to do it it might help if you upload an audio clip of you just humming up to where your break is, that way people might have a better idea of the problem you're having and hopefully might have some tips for ways you can work around it

Here you go, although as a lot of people, I hate hearing myself. Even if it is only humming.

http://soundcloud.com/altus-3/humming-low-to-high

It hurts so much now. Between yerterday's straining and the flu, I should completely stop for a few days.


PS: Found a great place for practising without fear of being heard:



We only use them twice per year, and they are completely insulated, no sound will come out even if you shout. If nobody is using the room, I can go there during the recess.


Edit: Alright, this is my current voice... Sorry, it is ridiculous (sorry about not being in english)


Deep

The higher I can speak and articulate

I don't think I can do it, at least the pitch. The higher I raise the pitch, the less strenght I have.

[Keaira]

I have not listened to your sample yet (I'm at work and do my posts in between work stuff) but maybe your problem is the same as mine - everyone else's voice sounds better 

The grass is always greener.....?

possibly. Or it could be that I find it too incredible to believe that my own voice is naturally passable.

[Snowpaw]

possibly. Or it could be that I find it too incredible to believe that my own voice is naturally passable.

It's probably that, tbh up until this thread I didn't believe I sounded anything other than a squeeky lispy gay guy. Sometimes it takes randoms to tell you what you need to hear. Voices are always different, yours sounds very fem, it doesn't have to be incredibly valley girl to sound girly. Take Donna from that 70s show. She has a very normal girl voice and so do you

[Keaira]

It's probably that, tbh up until this thread I didn't believe I sounded anything other than a squeeky lispy gay guy. Sometimes it takes randoms to tell you what you need to hear. Voices are always different, yours sounds very fem, it doesn't have to be incredibly valley girl to sound girly. Take Donna from that 70s show. She has a very normal girl voice and so do you

I guess I really really really lucked out with puberty. I think my voice changed only very slightly. 

[Snowpaw]

I guess I really really really lucked out with puberty. I think my voice changed only very slightly.

Be happy Your voice is very very real

[Apples Mk.II]

Agh, I just can't I'm analyzing the pitch in all of your samples, and it so perfect, always over 200 in a natural way.  With my natural tone at 100-150 and having to force it to even reach 170-140, I'm seriously ->-bleeped-<-ed.


I don't know if I can train to get a higher pitch without straining myself. The more I rise, the lower the volume.

[Ave]

Here you go, although as a lot of people, I hate hearing myself. Even if it is only humming.

http://soundcloud.com/altus-3/humming-low-to-high

It hurts so much now. Between yerterday's straining and the flu, I should completely stop for a few days.


PS: Found a great place for practising without fear of being heard:



We only use them twice per year, and they are completely insulated, no sound will come out even if you shout. If nobody is using the room, I can go there during the recess.


Edit: Alright, this is my current voice... Sorry, it is ridiculous (sorry about not being in english)


Deep

The higher I can speak and articulate

I don't think I can do it, at least the pitch. The higher I raise the pitch, the less strenght I have.

you have a pretty regular male voice, not particularly deep. Also, your voice doesn't have a gravelly undertone so you wouldn't have to work as hard.

The high voice does sound a little minnie mouse-ish.

****Tu ceceo me hace reir!

[Apples Mk.II]

****Tu ceceo me hace reir!

Blame my clogged nose... ->-bleeped-<-, I'm deleting them.


Sh*t, do I really do that? Why the ->-bleeped-<- nobody tells me? No, it can't be "ceceo" (swapping c and s). I have seen with the people that do that, and it is impossible to understand them (matadores). I'd have to have been born in the south to achieve that.

[Erica]

It's probably that, tbh up until this thread I didn't believe I sounded anything other than a squeeky lispy gay guy. Sometimes it takes randoms to tell you what you need to hear. Voices are always different, yours sounds very fem, it doesn't have to be incredibly valley girl to sound girly. Take Donna from that 70s show. She has a very normal girl voice and so do you

I worry that in conversation my voice sometimes sounds too deep.  I don't think it ever does, but I worry about it.  I think it can be difficult to divorce yourself from all of the things that you think and worry about yourself. 

[Ave]

Blame my clogged nose... ->-bleeped-<-, I'm deleting them.


Sh*t, do I really do that? Why the ->-bleeped-<- nobody tells me? No, it can't be "ceceo" (swapping c and s). I have seen with the people that do that, and it is impossible to understand them (matadores). I'd have to have been born in the south to achieve that.

nah man, for latin americans the whole lisping thing you do IS a "ceceo". I get that for you "ceceo" refers to what people of Andaluz do, but for us all of you speak funny and we call it "ceceo". Don't worry, you don't swap it (but even IF you did, y'all should cut the southeners some slack).

*tambien tenemos una version del "ceceo" aqui, pero es mas lijera y facil de controlar. En NYC suena estran(squiggly line)o.

[Jamie D]

Blame my clogged nose... ->-bleeped-<-, I'm deleting them.


Sh*t, do I really do that? Why the ->-bleeped-<- nobody tells me? No, it can't be "ceceo" (swapping c and s). I have seen with the people that do that, and it is impossible to understand them (matadores). I'd have to have been born in the south to achieve that.

I think you have a charming voice.  Many born-males have to learn and re-train their voices.  Look at Annah's videos on YouTube.

[Erica]

Keaira, I love your Orlando quote!  I love that movie : )

[Apples Mk.II]

I think you have a charming voice.

I got that one... from my Ex.  (Why everything reminds me of her?) I hope they will find something on the tests next month.

Come to think about it, even with a normal voice a lot of sounds are failing me, like if there was something stuck there. Sadly, the examination won't happen until october. I wanted to wait for voice training until then, but I am quite desperate.

Edit: The tests are only for alergies and the sinuses. If I want my throat checked, I'll have to pay for it.

the whole lisping thing you do IS a "ceceo".

You just made me look the definition for lisp. I have that? But yes, people are having more problems to understand me. They have increased at the same rate as the constant throat infections... Something must be really wrong.

[Apples Mk.II]

Look at Annah's videos on YouTube.

I am even afraid to look at, it will depress me even more. My range is so limited... I want to have a bit of hope, But.. Getting those cd's, and being able to get over the pitch... If I try to raise it, the spectrograph goes crazy unless I am in my natural tone, and keeping that unstable pitch raised becomes painfuls so quickly. Not even the falsetto is functional.