The "Does my voice pass?" thread

[Dena]

Pain and damage to the voice happen when you are to high, to low or to loud. If you start feeling discomfort, stop until you figure out whats wrong. The best way to figure out the pitch you should be is say EEEEEEEEEEEE and vary the frequency up and down. There will be a pitch where your voice is the strongest and that's the area where you should be using your voice.

[Lcleo]

Ok, thanks a lot Dena for all your help, I'll look into this

[nongcandy8558]

I've done CTA surgery and I dont think i pass , its always falsetto, I want it to be like a speaking voice,
I think my resonant is not right, some say to say the word "sting"  and you voice will vibrate in the nose cavity,
is this the right way to do it?so I can practice, im not concerned about my pitch now, just the resonance part that makes a voice sound like real girl not gay male

[Kylie9]

Hi everybody. I need a little help with my voice. I don't have anyone in real life to ask.

I've been practicing for two years and 6 months now, everyday. I've never used the voice in public so I don't know if it passes or if it can be clocked or if it sounds weird or what I need to work on, etc. Can I get some feedback? Here's the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/afae6gdpk16kn25/170802_034.MP3?dl=0

My original/natural 'guy voice' is a G2; I just checked. And the 'girl voice' fluctuates between a C4 & D4. I switch voices in the recording so you guys can here the difference.

I appreciate any feedback, thanks.

[Dena]

The voice would pass as feminine but it doesn't sound right and it might be stressful to maintain it. You need to do two things. The first to use a lower pitch. this chart will show you that 220 HZ or A3 is what you should be targeting. Slipping a bit lower in normal conversation isn't a problem as long as the rest of the voice is there. The second problem is the range of your voice. In a normal feminine voice, it should range more than a couple of notes so with the lower pitch, you should be able to use a wider range of pitch. Make those adjustments and you should be much closer to a final voice.

[Kylie9]

The voice would pass as feminine but it doesn't sound right and it might be stressful to maintain it. You need to do two things. The first to use a lower pitch. this chart will show you that 220 HZ or A3 is what you should be targeting. Slipping a bit lower in normal conversation isn't a problem as long as the rest of the voice is there. The second problem is the range of your voice. In a normal feminine voice, it should range more than a couple of notes so with the lower pitch, you should be able to use a wider range of pitch. Make those adjustments and you should be much closer to a final voice.

Ah... I'll work on those two things! Range... take it down a few notes. I guess I pushed my voice up to far. Okay... I'll bring it down so I can get that Range. Thank you for your advice!

[GraysonIsVeryConfused]

https://soundcloud.com/user-795890589/vocal-training-day-3

pfft my voice cracked a bit. My voice is naturally very high so going deeper has been hard. Constructive criticism is wanted and appreciated 

[Ritana]

Try to usebe your chesr voice making your voice vibrate more in the chesr.. Not only your pitch is high pitched but your resonance seem to be through your nasal cavities and mouth ie a female one.

[Dena]

To use the chest voice, you need to  relax the muscles between your jaw and your larynx while you speak. This may drop your voice into the lower feminine range which is sufficient for a prepuberty male voice. The other issue is males use a relatively limited frequency range and several time in the sample I heard your voice go way up into the feminine range. If you need to express emotion in your voice, do it with volume instead of pitch. I trained myself to do just the reverse where instead of volume, I used pitch for emotions.

[Ruth Ruthless]

Heya, I'm trying to get a female voice not just while talking, but also while singing.

How well do you think am I doing in that here?

[Paige]

Heya, I'm trying to get a female voice not just while talking, but also while singing.

How well do you think am I doing in that here?

Hi Ruth,
Love your singing.  I'm guessing you're asking about the high parts you're singing?  They don't seem as strong as your regular voice, but that could be practice or trying to go too high.  There's a bit of falsetto sound to it as well.  There are others that are much better than I am at this but I do think singing is much harder to do than speaking and speaking with a female voice isn't easy. 

Take care,
Paige

[Allie Bee]

Hi all, I thought I'd start a thread where people can upload audio clips of their voices and get feedback, in the hope we can all help each other out
Anyway, I'll go first... I should point out this is from my first day training my voice.. It's not great but, my "male" voice was pretty andro to begin with.. Anyway take a listen and Id love to hear what people think

http://soundcloud.com/natjs/voice-day-1

Please feel free to comment, and upload your own clips !
(I use soundcloud.com for a free account, and there is an app for smartphones that's easy to use and simple to share sounds on )

Niceeee,
Heres mine:P
https://soundcloud.com/allie-bee-826207505/my-voice

[Allie Bee]

https://soundcloud.com/user-795890589/vocal-training-day-3

pfft my voice cracked a bit. My voice is naturally very high so going deeper has been hard. Constructive criticism is wanted and appreciated

https://soundcloud.com/allie-bee-826207505/sounds-from-thursday-morning

[ShadowMT13]

How do you even train your self to sound more masculine? I have hated my voice ever since I started identifying as a male. It is just not my ideal voice...

[Eryn T]

Lots of wonderful information in this thread and what an AWESOME activity to share with everyone!

I think my voice is the only thing so far that really is very feminine about me, but it could still use work of course, heh heh 

Anyway, BONUS - I put my my old voice on the tail end of the recording, so you can hear the difference.


Also, I am a big fan of poetry(but mostly just Edgar Allan Poe!)

https://soundcloud.com/user-455138761/a-dream-within-a-dream-by-edgar-allan-poe-both-genders

PS: I flumbed my reading on the male-side, lol

[Lucca]

I've barely begun doing any vocal training or practice, but here are my earliest attempts:

https://soundcloud.com/lucca-connor/catan/s-P8DRo

This is a segment from the Settlers of Catan rules. The first part is my natural voice, the second part is me trying to change the tone without changing the pitch, and the third is me trying to change both the pitch and tone.

https://soundcloud.com/lucca-connor/insurance/s-NEBHD

This is a snippet from an insurance bill I had lying around. The first part is my natural voice, the second part is me trying as hard as I can to change both the pitch and tone, but it strained my neck a lot and took so much breath I was getting light-headed. The third part is me trying the same thing but without straining nearly as much.

[Serenahikaru]

I've been practicing for like 3 years now. I starting to get comfortable with my voice, but I wanted to see how passable it was. PS. Does anyone have any singing tips? 

https://soundcloud.com/user636000848/reading-test

[Lucca]

Sounds great to me! Maybe a bit mumbly, but I don't know that that's really a male vs. female thing in this case.

I've got a couple more clips, reading a snippet from a review for Hyrule Warriors:

https://soundcloud.com/lucca-connor/hyrulewarriors/s-oq8PP

https://soundcloud.com/lucca-connor/hyrulewarriors2/s-BhZfo

Still sounds pretty fake, but I'm not exactly sure what it is that needs work.

[Eryn T]

Sounds great to me! Maybe a bit mumbly, but I don't know that that's really a male vs. female thing in this case.

I've got a couple more clips, reading a snippet from a review for Hyrule Warriors:

https://soundcloud.com/lucca-connor/hyrulewarriors/s-oq8PP

https://soundcloud.com/lucca-connor/hyrulewarriors2/s-BhZfo

Still sounds pretty fake, but I'm not exactly sure what it is that needs work.

Yes, it does. But I can hear some genuine moments, too.   Getting the proper resonance takes time, and I do think you're progressing even faster than I did, Lucca! 

Another thing I think that really helped me is not having a safety net of sorts? Like when you're working on your voice, you're scared and timid and embarrassed, so I think we naturally don't "go for it" completely and always hold back a little(even when we think we're not)

But, in situations where you kind of need to go for it, there's a 'push' and something starts to click, I feel. That is certainly how it happened for me, in addition to everything I've done.  I remember, despite forgetting my water in the car, when I first talked to my therapist I talked for about 20 minutes straight and I was very critical about not breaking my voice or reverting for the sake of ease(but the loss of personal comfort) and afterwards, I sang a bit smoother in my car.

An analogy I can use is like you don't know how to swim, you've seen videos and people have explained it to you, then you get dropped into a pool. Do you flail around, or try to over think everything and even hope maybe someone will come to rescue you? Or do you decide to try and swim. Even when you do decide to try and swim, you won't be an olympian over night, y'know?

Give yourself more credit, hun!

After I made my video, I have been so busy and my throat so sore from lack of sleep that I don't really want to post any new recordings yet lol  But also(and I will hopefully be updating my blog thread soon) I went to Sephora's today for the Transgender class, and there was about 20 girls there and I was the only one that I know of which tried to use a feminine voice.

And because I need to get more comfortable speaking aloud to others, my voice sounded much worse than when I'm by myself in the car.  It is very difficult(at least, for me) to get over that nervous feeling when right in front of someone.

[Lucca]

Thanks so much! That makes me feel a bit more confidant.

One thing I'm having trouble with is modulating my pitch without going too low or having my voice crack, unless I concentrate really hard and/or get lucky, it falls apart on the lower end. It also sounds kind of "thin" at times, like it just sounds like loud whispering and needs a fuller timbre to it besides just being high-pitched with less resonance.