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[tekla]

criticized Stalin for using the secret ballot

America didn't start using secret ballots until after the 1880s.

[Carbon]

criticized Stalin for using the secret ballot

America didn't start using secret ballots until after the 1880s.

Do you actually think America was democratic prior to 1880s, never mind after it?

Maybe I'm not understanding your point.

[tekla]

I'm just sayin that an argument about secret ballots vs. voting via voca was not all that unusual at that time.  Nor in Classical Greece either.

And the USA has never been a democracy, it's always been a republic that uses democratic methods to elect representatives.  But anyone following the election and the manner that one could - as had happened - be elected President, yet not win the popular vote is the largest proof of that.

[UCBerkeleyPostop]

The United States is a plutocracy.

Miss Tekla can pontificate all she wants about the fine points that differentiate a socialist form a communists.

To me, it is very simple, they are the enemies of democracy.

So where does that leave Social Democrats?

[tekla]

So where does that leave Social Democrats?

I'm guessing 'Double Secret Probation' along with Delta House.