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How can I make my breasts grow bigger?

Started by Alyx., October 31, 2012, 12:19:46 AM

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Shantel

Here is something I had found out about from a conversation I had with a female naturopathic doctor that most MD's specializing in transgender medications either don't consider or fail to discuss, probably because MtF's are usually past puberty when starting transition and will never get pregnant. It concerns prolactin and it's effects on breast development. Here is a short article that corresponds to that conversation.

       "Your body generally only secretes prolactin at two specific times: during puberty and during pregnancy. Because it plays such a key role in breast development, though, prolactin is one hormone that you definitely want to get to know. During puberty, prolactin works with estrogen to develop the mammary glands, while increasing the number of estrogen receptors in the breasts. Prolactin also causes the breasts to store fat by increasing the production of lipoprotein lipase (LPL) in your breasts.5 LPL is a "fat storage" enzyme. During pregnancy and while nursing, prolactin controls the production of milk. It is first secreted around the eighth week of pregnancy and peaks at birth. After that, prolactin is only produced according to stimulation - namely, a baby suckling at your nipple. Interestingly enough, you don't actually have to be pregnant to produce prolactin. Adequate prolactin levels are absolutely crucial for triggering breast growth.

     Growth hormone, as the name implies, triggers the growth of your body. It also plays a special role in breast development. Growth hormone is so important that it is one of your body's most plentiful hormones. It is produced by the pituitary gland during the first two hours of sleep. Almost immediately after it's secreted, growth hormone is converted in the liver into a new, more usable substance known as Insulin like Growth Factor (IGF). Growth hormone could be thought of as your body's "Master Hormone" since it regulates every other hormone you've got. Growth hormone is produced in massive amounts during puberty, promoting the growth of cells, tissues, and organs. Without enough growth hormone, your body and your breasts simply wouldn't grow. As an adult, growth hormone is involved in tissue repair and cell replacement. Unfortunately, growth hormone levels start to plummet after the age of thirty. By the time you hit sixty, your growth hormone level could be 75% lower than it was when you were twenty! Low growth hormone levels are directly responsible for the aging of the body. Breast enlargement requires a lot of growth hormone. You had a ton of it at your disposal during puberty, but if you're over the age of eighteen, you're going to have to boost it back up in order to get your breasts to grow again."

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Shantel

Quote from: TessaM on November 04, 2012, 10:48:30 AM
Ok so prolactin can contribute to breast development? Is this something that requires a prescription? When is it produced during puberty? And are these effects permanent? I want more boobage, im closing in on 9 months hrt so I hope I still have lotsa development to go. Anymore info on HGH and its effects on us? I am 20 y/o, ill be 21 in a couple of months, not too far from 18 or puberty but I worry every day that I missed the "golden" time to start hrt.

I'll PM you Tessa.
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Kitteh Engimeer

Quote from: Brooke777 on November 04, 2012, 10:27:55 AM
A few of my trans friends said that caffeine could have an influence on breast development. Apparently, if you drink caffeine, it can inhibit breast development.

Ack. I really hope not. I need caffeine.

Besides, I think my breasts are coming along, although they're not breaking any speed records. At the moment, my right is out-pacing my left slightly >:( not particularly worried though.
I've been definitely eating a diet higher in fats and carbohydrates, and I'm up to about 133 at 5'10". The fat's mostly going to my butt and thighs, but it's also (more slowly) accumulating in my breasts.
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Seyranna

Quote from: Brooke777 on November 04, 2012, 10:27:55 AM
A few of my trans friends said that caffeine could have an influence on breast development. Apparently, if you drink caffeine, it can inhibit breast development.

Was drinking 3-5 cups of coffee a day. Had B cups by the fifth month of HRT.

/myth debunked

About growth hormones I remember having exceptionally good sleep patterns when I started HRT. Going to bed early and waking up with the sun and I'm sure that growth hormones work at their best in these conditions. Being in deep sleep at the appropriate time of the night might get you far in terms of fat redistribution too.

circadian rhythm FTW in this case I'm sure.
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peky

Quote from: Shantel on November 04, 2012, 10:36:02 AM
Here is something I had found out about from a conversation I had with a female naturopathic doctor that most MD's specializing in transgender medications either don't consider or fail to discuss, probably because MtF's are usually past puberty when starting transition and will never get pregnant. It concerns prolactin and it's effects on breast development. Here is a short article that corresponds to that conversation.

       "Your body generally only secretes prolactin at two specific times: during puberty and during pregnancy. Because it plays such a key role in breast development, though, prolactin is one hormone that you definitely want to get to know. During puberty, prolactin works with estrogen to develop the mammary glands, while increasing the number of estrogen receptors in the breasts. Prolactin also causes the breasts to store fat by increasing the production of lipoprotein lipase (LPL) in your breasts.5 LPL is a "fat storage" enzyme. During pregnancy and while nursing, prolactin controls the production of milk. It is first secreted around the eighth week of pregnancy and peaks at birth. After that, prolactin is only produced according to stimulation - namely, a baby suckling at your nipple. Interestingly enough, you don't actually have to be pregnant to produce prolactin. Adequate prolactin levels are absolutely crucial for triggering breast growth.


J Appl Toxicol. 2012 Jan;32(1):1-9. doi: 10.1002/jat.1772. Epub 2011 Nov 17.
Hypothesis: prolactin is tumorigenic to human breast: dispelling the myth that prolactin-induced mammary tumors are rodent-specific.
Harvey PW.
Source

Covance Laboratories, Otley Road, Harrogate, North Yorkshire, HG3 1PY, UK. philip.harvey@covance.com
Abstract

The commonly held assumption that rodent mammary tumors resulting from elevated prolactin are species-specific, or not biologically relevant to humans, is incorrect. Substantial epidemiological, clinical, and biological evidence now exists confirming the role of prolactin in human breast cancer. This evidence is evaluated and the argument presented that the tumorigenic risk from prolactin is therefore not species-specific to rodents but directly applies to humans. Further, as the mechanisms of prolactin-induced mammary tumor promotion and development appear analogous between rodents and humans, mammary tumorigenic findings in rodent carcinogenicity bioassays are both predictive and biologically relevant to the human response. Toxicologists and regulators need to consider this in carcinogenicity risk assessments.
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Shantel

Quote from: peky on November 04, 2012, 11:55:58 AM
J Appl Toxicol. 2012 Jan;32(1):1-9. doi: 10.1002/jat.1772. Epub 2011 Nov 17.
Hypothesis: prolactin is tumorigenic to human breast: dispelling the myth that prolactin-induced mammary tumors are rodent-specific.
Harvey PW.
Source

Covance Laboratories, Otley Road, Harrogate, North Yorkshire, HG3 1PY, UK. philip.harvey@covance.com
Abstract

The commonly held assumption that rodent mammary tumors resulting from elevated prolactin are species-specific, or not biologically relevant to humans, is incorrect. Substantial epidemiological, clinical, and biological evidence now exists confirming the role of prolactin in human breast cancer. This evidence is evaluated and the argument presented that the tumorigenic risk from prolactin is therefore not species-specific to rodents but directly applies to humans. Further, as the mechanisms of prolactin-induced mammary tumor promotion and development appear analogous between rodents and humans, mammary tumorigenic findings in rodent carcinogenicity bioassays are both predictive and biologically relevant to the human response. Toxicologists and regulators need to consider this in carcinogenicity risk assessments.

Uh-huh, that's why prolactin is a naturally occurring hormone in women during breast development and  becomes elevated during lactation while breast feeding. The concern is about women who have been using prolactin boosters in large if not massive doses to increase lactation for breast feeding. Initially all of those meds are intended to be taken in normal dosage levels as a relief for digestive problems, a side effect is elevated prolactin levels. If one was to exceed the recommended dosages of any medication it can most certainly lead to severe health risks  or even death. That's why we don't discuss hormone dosages here and recommend a consultation with a licensed MD before taking any medications. Case in point: Spironolactone was originally intended for use as a diuretic for patients with kidney function problems but one of the side effects is that it blocks the activity of testosterone. Some of the finistride based medications intended for relief of enlarged prostates has a known side effect of blocking the action of DHT causing hair loss. It would be grossly unfair to post a negative statement about using either for the sake of sounding authoritative and scaring the bejeebers out of people when common sense tells us that anything taken in excess will cause health problems and possibly premature death including food.
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Alyx.

If you do not agree to my demands... TOO LATE
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Brooke777

Quote from: Seyranna on November 04, 2012, 11:25:46 AM
Was drinking 3-5 cups of coffee a day. Had B cups by the fifth month of HRT.

/myth debunked

About growth hormones I remember having exceptionally good sleep patterns when I started HRT. Going to bed early and waking up with the sun and I'm sure that growth hormones work at their best in these conditions. Being in deep sleep at the appropriate time of the night might get you far in terms of fat redistribution too.

circadian rhythm FTW in this case I'm sure.

I'm wondering how much mine will grow if I quite caffeine. I have B cups now, I wonder if they will hit C if I stop.
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Ms. OBrien CVT


  
It does not take courage or bravery to change your gender.  It takes fear of living one more day in the wrong one.~me
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Ms. OBrien CVT

Quote from: Brooke777 on November 04, 2012, 09:44:48 PM
I'm wondering how much mine will grow if I quite caffeine. I have B cups now, I wonder if they will hit C if I stop.

Mine too.  As much coffee as I drink I would be a D or DD now. 

  
It does not take courage or bravery to change your gender.  It takes fear of living one more day in the wrong one.~me
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MaidofOrleans

"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Jamie D

#51
Bigger is not necessarily better

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Kitteh Engimeer

#52
Quote from: Jamie D on November 04, 2012, 11:02:52 PM
Bigger is not necessarily better

(゚д゚)

Wow, those things are going to be tricky when she's 30 years older.
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MaidofOrleans

#53
Quote from: Jamie D on November 04, 2012, 11:02:52 PM
Bigger is not necessarily better

Must...resist...urge...to..pop!
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Shantel

#54
Quote from: Jamie D on November 04, 2012, 11:02:52 PM
Bigger is not necessarily better

:icon_yikes: OMG how repulsive! Where's my hat pin? Everybody stand back....ack! Boom! 
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aprilrain

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A

#56
Anyway. Peky, what you wrote looks kind of interesting, but like all abstracts of all studies in English, I don't understand it in the slightest. If you could "translate" it for me, I'd be grateful.

People, don't panic on caffeine. Studies are beginning to show that maybe it inhibits growth. Maybe. Perhaps. If it has an effect, it's probably minor.

Shantel, that thing you're PMing people about... I think you should post it here. I'm pretty sure it's not against the rules, and if it is, you can surely censor stuff to make it okay. Because I feel pretty much everyone, like me, wants to know.
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Isabelle on October 31, 2012, 12:44:51 AM
Carbs. eat carbs. lots and lots of carbs. Pasta, bread, all that stuff :)

...and then you will have a big fat pot belly! and no boobs!

Quote from: TessaM on November 04, 2012, 10:48:30 AM
Ok so prolactin can contribute to breast development? Is this something that requires a prescription? When is it produced during puberty? And are these effects permanent? I want more boobage, im closing in on 9 months hrt so I hope I still have lotsa development to go. Anymore info on HGH and its effects on us? I am 20 y/o, ill be 21 in a couple of months, not too far from 18 or puberty but I worry every day that I missed the "golden" time to start hrt.

I'm not convinced. My prolactin levels are always very high and through the roof, yet my boobs are extremely small.
Living in the real world, not a fantasy
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A

Gotta add here that while there are many factors, luck is undeniably a major one. Even if eating apples favoured the growth of breasts, it wouldn't mean it would work on everyone. Similarly, even if you eat tons of "anti-cancer" foods, it's not guaranteed that you won't die from a cancer.
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IvaniaChavez

For make bust bigger i am using boobpop which is helped to my bust firm up and it helped me keep my breasts while the rest of me lost weight. Great Product.
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