Are you an Androgyne or are you just androgynous?

[DrillQuip]

Just curious. Forgive me if this offends anyone, i know some non binary people use the word in a totally different way, but i cant fit an infinite number of options. If your id isnt here you can comment or suggest something and it can be added.

Anyway, i just wanted to see how many people identify with androgynous gender ids and how they do it. I figured a poll might be a fun way to take a peek at the andie community.

[Kaelin]

The way androgyne is defined here nowadays includes people who do not fit neatly into the gender norms of their society.  This includes people whose gender is the one assigned to them, but who do not conform to social norms for their gender.  In this respect, "just androgynous" people are permitted to be regarded as androgynes.

It might be more correct to ask if an androgyne is simply androgynous, or if the person instead/also has an alternate gender.

[suzifrommd]

I think I'm a combination of female and male elements. I think I was probably female at birth (but never knew it) and then the male parts got grafted on by living as one for a half-century. Will be curious to see how much of that drops off if I begin living as a female.

[Keira]

I think I'm a combination of female and male elements. I think I was probably female at birth (but never knew it) and then the male parts got grafted on by living as one for a half-century. Will be curious to see how much of that drops off if I begin living as a female.

I had that happen when I came out to my parents as bigender...then my male side disappeared altogether. It's like I had created a persona in high school so that I could fit in. I can tell because the persona didn't always work, and I still didn't really fit in. I also didn't "feel" that I was expressing my true self.

I think that it might take some time for your true identity (if you aren't actually androgynous) to fully come apart from your persona. That's just my speculation though; and just through my experience of such things.

[Pica Pica]

I'm androgyne.

I was going to say more, but that says it all for me.

[Phoeniks]

I'm androgyne, and mostly genderfluid. It's really difficult to choose from those options, but the best for me was "androgyne and other/non-binary". For me, gender id just varies a lot. I'm inclined to identify more as male than female, but that may change when I don't almost always get read as female anymore.

[Padma]

It was hard to pick one. I'm broadly inclined to identify as a woman, because I experience myself as being supposed to have a female body (hence transitioning). But my "gender identity" isn't female, so much as androgyne. And this all has tides. Cultural pressure to conform to a binary model makes it very hard to put my finger on what I "am", because my culture seems to offer me only the options of being a woman, or androgyne - and I experience myself as both (or anyway, see no conflict between the two, except that they're considered mutually exclusive).

[insideontheoutside]

Hey there's two other people who are androgynous but ID as male! I'm not alone

[Taka]

i had no idea what to answer to that. can't call myself androgynous, since i don't look it at all. and i'm a non-binary whose gender identity is a real mess. currently i have a male online identity, a female offline identity, and a slightly better aligned identity among people who get it. and i am all of those things or none, depending on factors so arbitrary that i still haven't figured out what they are

[eli77]

I don't really have much of a gender identity. I picked androgynous and non-binary as it seemed the closest.

[androgynoid]

I don't really have much of a gender identity. I picked androgynous and non-binary as it seemed the closest.

This, haha. My gender is neutrois, which I think of as the gender of not really having a gender.

[Shantel]

I suppose this best describes me. I am androgynous, but my gender id is (other, non binary) since initially being male born, but having mixed male and female thoughts I finally had an orchiectomy to make it a physical reality. Some refer to it as castration, the process of becoming a eunuch. Kind of an ugly word that I don't like but it leaves me suspended between genders and not fully a part of either, ergo non binary and androgynous in the fullest sense!

[Padma]

I agree on not liking 'castration' - it's another of those words like 'reassignment' that imply something being done to you, instead of something you've chosen to do.

[eli77]

This, haha. My gender is neutrois, which I think of as the gender of not really having a gender.

We are sort of similar. But I'm comfortable with my body being physically female. You are going for physical androgyny, no? If you think about it as expression/identity/physicality, I'm androgynous/______/female. And I'm MAAB, so I'm transsexual as well as non-binary.

[Jamie D]

I would say the first choice describes me best.  Both genders (as I understand them).  Sometimes one.  Sometimes the other.  Sometime both at once.  And always in conflict.  I'm complicated.

[eli77]

I would say the first choice describes me best.  Both genders (as I understand them).  Sometimes one.  Sometimes the other.  Sometime both at once.  And always in conflict.  I'm complicated.

Sounds very noisy in your head, Jamie. I guess I'm sort of your opposite (not that opposites really make sense for gender...). All empty inside.

[finalyfree]

sorry but im new to this , have never spoken to another androgyne  ,i just thought an androgyne was androgenous i was born male but dont identify myself as male i know im a mix of both and am just me i, i do what i want to do and behave as i want to  others can either accept me or not its irrelevant to my personal happyness i love who i am and have a fun and happy life

[Shantel]

Finalyfree, sounds to me like you're at the right place. Welcome!

[dalebert]

I definitely identify as male, but I'm starting to acknowledge a lot of feminine traits in myself and some desire to have some physical traits that are more feminine than what I have. For instance, I am naturally inclined to bulk up when I work out when I wish I were more inclined to slim down and just get more lean and defined. I've tried and somewhat succeeded in learning to appreciate this and realize that a more clearly masculine-shaped body is attractive to some people. Sometimes I think if I had been taller, I'd appreciate my ability to bulk up my muscle more, so I kind of waiver on that. Prolly has nothing to do with androgyny. Does that make sense?

At times in my life some could even be described as full-on dysphoria. For instance, I became extremely uncomfortable with my facial hair as it was growing in during my high school years and some portion of that lingered for more than a decade. I identify as male and am attracted exclusively to men, but the type of men I'm most attracted to tend to be more androgynous. Over time my dysphoria has lessened quite a bit but isn't completely gone and my tastes in men remains reasonably broad but will always lean toward the androgynous type. The hyper-masculine type simply doesn't do it for me (bears?). Sometimes admitting this in gay circles will get me labeled as not really gay or not gay enough or some nonsense like that just as admitting I'm often attracted to trans men will, also an ignorant response. I've actually developed an appreciation for well-groomed facial hair and even sometimes wish I could grow a healthier beard than I actually can. Anyway, I'm starting to veer off topic for this thread--sorry. But that's my story.

[dalebert]

Something else just occurred to me. I remember as a child, maybe just a little prepubescent at that time, when an older sister said something about eating spinach or something like that so I could get big muscles and I absolutely cringed. I think I may have even said something--expressed my disgust at the idea of being muscular because I also seem to recall some uncomfortable expressions on my sisters and mom in response to what I said. This was before I realized I was gay, before I was experiencing any real clear sexual attractions to anyone. That memory and the feelings that went with it stuck with me even after I started coming to terms with puberty.

The thing is, I don't know how much of what I experienced had anything to do with some small degree of ->-bleeped-<- or if it was just typical for kids going through puberty and being weirded out by the strangeness of it all.