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Started by Kevin Peña, November 14, 2012, 09:37:53 PM

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Annah

Quote from: Karen on December 18, 2012, 06:48:31 PM
My mother would disagree. She swears that women are the worst drivers on the planet.

as a former Insurance Underwriter, I completely agree with you. Women are the worse drivers but there rates are cheaper because when they have accidents they are more than likely not to kill anyone. If a man has an accident, they are more than likely to kill someone.

At least according to the numbers
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Emily Aster

Quote from: DianaP on December 18, 2012, 06:54:12 PM
As for the stereotype that girls all listen to K-Pop trash: A bunch of girls asked me to turn up my i-pod when they figured out that I was listening to Frank Sinatra. Some people do know good music.  ;D

All of my girl friends (two words) listen to the same types of music. Metallica, Disturbed, Tool, etc. I've never heard someone call them unladylike for it either. I like that stuff too along with musicals, classical, and Nightwish. Taste in music has nothing to do with gender.
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Kevin Peña

Quote from: Karen on December 18, 2012, 07:01:03 PM
Taste in music has nothing to do with gender.

Duh. That's why I put it on a stereotype thread.  :P
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Emily Aster

Quote from: DianaP on December 18, 2012, 07:02:36 PM
Duh. That's why I put it on a stereotype thread.  :P

I was mainly just saying that I've never heard that stereotype. I've never known anybody that pigeon-holed people based on music.
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Annah

Quote from: Karen on December 18, 2012, 07:13:09 PM
I was mainly just saying that I've never heard that stereotype. I've never known anybody that pigeon-holed people based on music.

cant say that I have either
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Simon

Quote from: Karen on December 18, 2012, 07:01:03 PM
Taste in music has nothing to do with gender.

There is certain music that is marketed towards a certain gender/age bracket (One Direction/Justin Bieber). I actually like a few of Bieber's songs. Am I fan? eh, wouldn't go that far, lol.

A stereotype that gets on my nerves is "chick flicks". What because a movie features romance or drama I'm supposed to shun it?
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DeeperThanSwords

A week or so ago, I went to pick out some boxer briefs (I think that's the common term) for me to try out wearing, with an additional view to seeing how they get on with my packer. Aesthetics are important to me, I like to look good, as that makes me feel good, so I spent a bit of time on it. Also, I felt that, as this was my first time exploring this with my trans consciousness, that I should not treat it lightly, and that manifested in me agonising over whether I wanted shorts with stars, stripes, or robots. A female friend was with me, and she found this amusing, and we had a laugh about it, and that helped alleviate the anxiousness.

However, when she got home and told her boyfriend that I had spent 20 minutes choosing men's underwear, her boyfriend said "She's not a bloke then. Unless she's a gay bloke."

This annoyed me on a number of levels when it was relayed to me. My outward response was "Well, yeah, I am a gay bloke!" and laughed it off, but inside I felt like I wasn't being taken seriously. The assumption that only women and gay men care about their appearance infuriates me.
"Fear cuts deeper than swords."



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Annah

I remember when I was a guy, buying underwear was going into the store, grabbing a couple of packages from the rack that was my size and then finding a cash register with the shortest line.
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Emily Aster

Quote from: Simon on December 18, 2012, 07:20:34 PM
A stereotype that gets on my nerves is "chick flicks". What because a movie features romance or drama I'm supposed to shun it?

I have a theory on that one which may be baseless since I'm trans, lol. But anyway, I'm thinking that a lot of guys use that label to identify movies that will make them teary eyed, which is not permitted, so they just avoid them altogether. So called chick flicks do tend to be very emotional, for me at least.
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Kevin Peña

Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on December 18, 2012, 07:49:02 PM
Also, I felt that, as this was my first time exploring this with my trans consciousness, that I should not treat it lightly, and that manifested in me agonising over whether I wanted shorts with stars, stripes, or robots.




Honestly, my wardrobe is so shabby. After transition, I'd bet my time in stores will increase exponentially. Seriously, women have so much more to choose from, so it takes longer.  :P
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Simon

Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on December 18, 2012, 07:49:02 PM
However, when she got home and told her boyfriend that I had spent 20 minutes choosing men's underwear, her boyfriend said "She's not a bloke then. Unless she's a gay bloke."

The assumption that only women and gay men care about their appearance infuriates me.

Don't let that assumption infuriate you. Since you are a gay man just see it as he was affirming your identity.

As a straight guy I go in the underwear aisle, look for my size, look at the fabric type/fitting style, glance at the often dull color choices (I buy Hanes or Fruit of the Loom...no fancy stuff), and toss them in the cart. I will say I bought new boxers for the first time in about a year a few weeks ago because I needed them for surgery. Otherwise I rarely buy new underwear until they wear out. Even though 90% of the time I am only wearing boxers and T shirts around the house.

I do spend 20 minutes looking at the hats and trying them on sometimes.
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Seb

QuoteThe assumption that only women and gay men care about their appearance infuriates me.

My brother is straight as an arrow and takes more time in the bathroom in one day then I do all week. :P Acne cleansers, excessive tooth brushing, hair styling, shaving, chest waxing... He loves his appearance as much as he loves women! :P
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DeeperThanSwords

Quote from: Seb on December 18, 2012, 09:32:43 PM
My brother is straight as an arrow and takes more time in the bathroom in one day then I do all week. :P Acne cleansers, excessive tooth brushing, hair styling, shaving, chest waxing... He loves his appearance as much as he loves women! :P

How does he get time to meet women?! Lol!  :laugh:
"Fear cuts deeper than swords."



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DeeperThanSwords

Quote from: DianaP on December 18, 2012, 08:02:05 PM



The socks are great, but the underwear is a tad too garish for my taste.  :laugh:
"Fear cuts deeper than swords."



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Freyja_Joro

Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on December 18, 2012, 07:49:02 PM
The assumption that only women and gay men care about their appearance infuriates me.

My big brother, is married to a woman, and he has more clothes than she does... and it looks really nice :) . But that's my family, artistic, and on average has a fashion sense... (Yes!)
What's the point of following the path society told you to follow if you're lost anyway? Take the unbeaten path.
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concrete Building

Quote from: DeeperThanSwords on December 18, 2012, 07:49:02 PM
The assumption that only women and gay men care about their appearance infuriates me.
As a general assumption, I do agree with this. But being one with a crap ton of zits and scars... I've got to look somewhat presentable, right? I mean Chewbacca doesn't look like Leonardo Dicaprio, but he's still got friends he wants to present himself to, right?

Quote from: Simon on December 18, 2012, 08:51:34 PM
I do spend 20 minutes looking at the hats and trying them on sometimes.
This is alot of fun. The best part is when you actually have the time and money to get one of the hats.


As for what I hate..

The general idea that all men are ->-bleeped-<-s.

I hate that.

Just because I was born with a dick doesn't mean I can't be nice.

Nor does it mean I want to make your life miserable.

It's partially why I went into entertainment. I want to make you happy. If I do that, it'll make us both happy. And 2 happy people are better than 1 happy person, right?
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Kevin Peña

Quote from: concrete Building on December 28, 2012, 10:54:21 PM
As for what I hate..

The general idea that all men are ->-bleeped-<-s.

I know. It's like some kind of reverse sexism. You hate men, so it's ok, right? No! I'd bet a lot of women don't even know the word "misandrist."
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Edge

I've never understood the reverse __ism thing or liked it. I dunno. Maybe I just don't know the proper definition or something, but it seems like it implies that prejudice, stereotyping, and/or discrimination towards a group of people is not the same as prejudice, stereotyping, and/or discrimination against another group of people. It implies inequality.
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Kevin Peña

I think it means prejudice against the group that formerly oppressed others, such as "reverse racism" against whites (which is stupid).
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Edge

I suppose that makes sense if one sees the entire group as one rather than individuals, but that in itself is a problem.
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