Nurse dies.

[Ms. OBrien CVT]

The DJs have voluntary went off the air foe the time being.

[Devlyn]

We can all take a lesson from this. Our words can hurt. Something said without malice can turn around and have a dire effect on another person. Don't tease. Don't poke. You may save a life. Hugs, Devlyn

[Cindy]

And now it is my turn to apologise.

The DJ's are also under suicide watch. May they be alright.

[~RoadToTrista~]

We can all take a lesson from this. Our words can hurt. Something said without malice can turn around and have a dire effect on another person. Don't tease. Don't poke. You may save a life. Hugs, Devlyn

Obviously it doesn't hold very well since a huge chunk of the world still thinks that it's okay to berate these 2 into depression over some stupid prank that anyone could predict was meaningless.

[spacial]

And now it is my turn to apologise.

The DJ's are also under suicide watch. May they be alright.

That's dreadful news. Thank you Cindy for keeping us all informed. Their healing will take a lot longer and I don't believe the patient or her family will need any more stress at what should be a a happy time.

It's just all so very sad.

[Cindy]

Yes we are all perfect.

Yes we all want to have a laugh

Yes we are great critics.

We are all better than each other.

Some kids made a prank phone call and I stated that they should be charged with manslaughter.

Shows how big I am.

People are posting that they hope the DJ's enjoy having blood on their hands.

Goddess they are the same age as Kate.

I feel so ashamed.

I have learned a lesson.

And it hurts.

[~RoadToTrista~]

[Beverly]

Thanks for posting that. It clarifies the situation because it appears that this was not a LIVE prank. This was recorded, someone in management listened to it and approved it and THEN  it was broadcast.

If heads should roll, it should be in the management team.

[Ms. OBrien CVT]

At least they are showing genuine remorse.  And management bears sole responsibly for airing the prank.

[Cindy]

I'd like to open this discussion up.

What do we learn from this. We who are often vilified and joked about.

What do we learn?

My quick temper was unjust? OK learned that.

What do we learn about how we treat people?

You note how we treat people not how we are treated.

[spacial]

This matter was discussed this morning in a discussion program on TV.

A few thoughts.

The nurse, however tragic it was for her, was undoubtedly already quite depressed. But, I do hope we can learn that, for many professions, nursing but others, what people put into their work may make the prospect of loosing it a lot more than we might think.

Crank calls and such are one thing. But doing this to people who are not used to being in the public eye is rather more unplesent. We had a similar issue recently, when two people on Radio, one of them Russel Brand, phoned a rather elderly, though experienced actory. It seems Brand had had a brief relationship with this actor's grand-daughther before being dumped.

The two essentially made a series of insulting and personal remarks about the girl, to her grandfather. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/3274807/Transcript-Russell-Brand-and-Jonathan-Ross-prank-call-to-Andrew-Sachs.html This was, I believe rightly, seen as unacceptable.

People who do these sort of things really need to be more careful. They need to understand they are essentially attacking others. They should never involve children or those doing their jobs. In those cases, for example, a child answers the phone, they simply say who they are and that they were phoning their parent/someone.

[~RoadToTrista~]

Let's just stop trying to play the blame game on who did what instead of them. The fact is, it was just a prank call, nobody on that station is responsible. It's unrealistic to assume that they're going to take everything into account of what might happen, because that's so far off. Who the frick is going to sum up "oh, we can't make this prank call because the nurse might kill herself?" First of all we don't even know why she killed herself, for all we know she didn't care remotely and did it for other reasons, or, someone forced her to.

Ugh srry, this topic makes me fired up.

[spacial]

You may be right Trista. It is a presumption.

[Sarah Louise]

Making a "Prank call" is wrong no matter what you reason or job.

These radio announcers made a bad judgement all in the name of humor or self promotion.  I agree they could not know how the nurse would react.

But the call was still wrong.

[Devlyn]

Making a "Prank call" is wrong no matter what you reason or job.

These radio announcers made a bad judgement all in the name of humor or self promotion.  I agree they could not know how the nurse would react.

But the call was still wrong.

Agreed. You may not know the reaction, but what makes it OK to pester someone for no reason?

[suzifrommd]

But the call was still wrong.

Especially bad because the media has great power to draw a lot of attention to a private individual. That's why there are laws that protect private citizens from having their likenesses shown on TV without their permission.

To my seeing, radio, newspapers, and TV stations bear a much greater responsibility for their pranks than, say, your average 11-year old who's asking about whether appliances are running.

[~RoadToTrista~]

Making a "Prank call" is wrong no matter what you reason or job.

It's more wrong to be one of those people who blew it out of proportion, and are treating them horribly for it when they already feel like crap. Making a prank call or several prank calls doesn't make you a terrible person.

[tekla]

But the problem from the position of view of the nurse is, they cannot treat anyone differently. People are treated according to their needs.
Nice try, but it's not true.  First of all, when most women get a bun in the oven they go to see a OB/GNY, and they get a few things checked out, and they get a vitamin supplement and are told to keep in good shape.  They don't (baring some obvious problem) get put in the hospitle for a couple of days so that every test that can be run is run.  She is NOT just another patient.

Moreover, when is it ever the nurses duty to give out information out over the phone to someone who calls?  And here - even if, and I know you have to treat them the same in terms of medical stuff - we both know that she is not just some other patient in terms of security.  Her and that bun in the oven are perhaps 2 of the 3 most important people in the Empire at the current moment, and it's not rocket science to understand that.   And again - I'm sure they were briefed on that security issue - BIG TIME.

And really, if you're telling me that she is, and ought to be, treated like any other NHS patient, I'm not buying it.

But if your favorite pop star comes in, it takes all your concentration, all your determination, your resolve, to do only what is right. You wanna fall at their feet and have their babies. You wanna say all those things you been thinking of for years. You wanna shout from the roof tops, but you keep your head and do the job.
No, I don't.  I (unfortunately) met my heroes years ago, and I'm long over it.  To tell the truth I treat them more like Special Ed students than stars.  I do my best to put on the best show in the world every night we do a show, no matter who is playing, that's how I got my job pretty much.  They are Tonight's Trained Seals, and tomorrow night we'll have a different seal.  I'm working with them, far more than I work for them.

As for who this woman is related to, however much it might be difficult to understand, that is and must be, irrelevant. She's a patient.
You would be wrong about that too.  That's exactly why the nurse had problems.

[spacial]

I'm sorry you seem to feel quite strongly.

The reasons we, the public, were told why she went into hospital are not necessarily the actual reasons. There are a number of situations where a woman in the first timester of pregnancy may need to be admitted for tests.

The nurse in charge will generally give information. There is nothing unusual in this at all. As for security, that is not the nurses' job at all. I have cared for prisoners, serving long sentences for serious offences. If I or any nurse had found one escaping and they asked the way out, for example, I would point the way. Simply because it isn't my job to keep him in custody.

I didn't say she would be treated like any NHS patient, I said she would be treated like any patient.

Your point about how you would react to a pop star.  I have no idea what you're talking about.

And no, the nurse had problems because she made a silly, elementary mistake which I can see myself making so very easily.

[suzifrommd]

And no, the nurse had problems because she made a silly, elementary mistake which I can see myself making so very easily.

So true. And maybe this is one of the better mistakes for a nurse to make. Better to misjudge a privacy situation, than administer the wrong meds, for example.

One of the reasons I avoided the medical field. I'd rather my frequent mistakes be of the embarrassing sort instead of the life-threatening sort.