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Testosterone use/ How much? FTM

Started by jmhfl7, December 11, 2012, 12:40:25 AM

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jmhfl7

Hello!

What is amount of testosterone needed to transition from FTM and how long?
By this I mean growing a full beard and getting chest hair if possible.

Thanks,

Jean
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DeeperThanSwords

I'm afraid that we can't discuss/advise dosage on here. You need to speak to your doctor about it. However, if you want to ask about less specific stuff, please go ahead.

Aethan xx
"Fear cuts deeper than swords."



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supremecatoverlord

It's different for everyone.

Also, your question is basically inappropriate on this site.
Meow.



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Kupcake

I'm sorry.  The rules of this site forbid asking these kinds of questions.

This is called self-medication, and it's not considered completely safe.  Many antiandrogens and antiestrogens have adverse side effects which should be continuously monitored, to avoid developing complications which may not be obvious until damage has been done.  Even if it were safe, self-medication is very often not particularly effective.  Most people who self-medicate don't really give themselves dosages within the proper range.  It's too individual to simply guess a number.  It really requires some degree of after-the-fact adjustment to dosage levels based on blood tests.

If you feel you have gender issues, your first step should really be to find a therapist who has experience dealing with patients with such issues.  They can talk with you about what you're feeling, and they're ultimately the first gatekeepers into the transition process.  In many jurisdictions, you need to have talked to a therapist for a while before a doctor will prescribe you hormones.  Alternatively, some jurisdictions have simple "informed consent" rules where you can be prescribed after being told the risks of doing this.

I'd really talk to a professional first, though.  You should know that most individuals who present to clinicians with issues of gender dysphoria don't end up transitioning.  Many of the the masculinizing effects of testosterone are permanent and shouldn't be taken lightly.  If you are sure after talking to them for a while, they can and will still help you prepare for your journey.

Good luck and be safe.
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Cindy

Thank you all for responding.

As people have said jmhfl7 taking hormones and hormone blocks are physically dangerous and the side effects can happen before you are aware.

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jmhfl7

Thanks for your response and I understand about the implications about asking what I asked. Can anyone guide me into what type of doctor to see?  Would this be an endocrinologist or are there others?
Also, can anyone recommend a site where I can find such doctors in Miami, FL?

Thanks so much!
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Simon

Google has a ton of resources. I quickly searched "transgender endocrinologist florida" and came up with a few names. Take some initiative to find out info. Btw, before you waste your money seeing an endo first you need to seek out a therapist. An endo will not give you T without a letter. This isn't something that magically happens overnight. It usually takes months of therapy to get a letter for T. Good Luck.
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Kupcake

Good.  I'm really glad to hear you're receptive to doing this right.  Here's the short version.

In the moment, it can seem like you're 100% sure, especially early on.  But there are a lot of people who think that and later discover that their issues weren't quite as simple as they thought.  It's really complicated stuff.  You might talk to a professional for a few months, clear things up, and only have that confirm what you originally thought.  Then you can start transitioning.  That's very possible.  Or it might go the opposite way.  It does happen, even to some people who think they're sure.  That's why therapy is the first step.  I would look for that first.  And even if you don't really want it, there is actually a set protocol for this stuff, and that protocol typically involves therapy first.  You want doctors to cooperate with you, right?  That means you have to play by the rules, even if it can be a little frustrating at times.

Once you go through this step, if you choose to proceed, they will eventually give you a letter which you can take to an endocrinologist.  This is the doctor who will manage the hormonal part of your transition.

If you don't have coverage, get it.  I've found Kaiser to be really good, but I hear it varies a lot by area.  So you might call ahead to their offices in your area and ask specifically if they have services for transgender individuals.

Anyway, once you've got some kind of coverage, I'd look up psychologists in your area.  I'd call or e-mail ahead of time and ask directly, "Do you have experience dealing with gender identity issues?"  You'd probably do best with somebody who knows the terrain a little, though it's not strictly necessary.

One broad listing is the APA website.  http://locator.apa.org/  There you can look up a list, including selecting a specific issue.  "Gender Identity" is one you can choose.

However, that's not an exhaustive list, and the people there may or may not be covered by your insurance.  So what I would look for is the specific listing that your insurance company has.  Usually, there's some kind of button where you can "Find a Provider", where you select a type of doctor, and it gives you a list of doctors in your area that they cover.

Just remember, the goal of this journey is to find the truth about yourself, not to reach a predetermined endpoint.  If that truth means you need to transition, we will be here to support you.  I'm just telling you all of this stuff because I want you to do this right and be sure, so you'll be happy with your decision.
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Arch

Quote from: Simon on December 12, 2012, 03:21:42 PM
An endo will not give you T without a letter.

This isn't uniformly true.

Funny thing about that APA list...it doesn't turn up a single known gender therapist in my area--but it comes up with a bunch of people I've never heard of who aren't included on the LGBT center's master list. I would call the closest LGBT center and ask about trans counseling.
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supremecatoverlord

Quote from: Simon on December 12, 2012, 03:21:42 PM
Google has a ton of resources. I quickly searched "transgender endocrinologist florida" and came up with a few names. Take some initiative to find out info. Btw, before you waste your money seeing an endo first you need to seek out a therapist. An endo will not give you T without a letter. This isn't something that magically happens overnight. It usually takes months of therapy to get a letter for T. Good Luck.
Unless you get testosterone by informed consent.
Meow.



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Devlyn

Completely off topic, but Jason, the new avatar is the cats meow! Hugs, Devlyn
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GentlemanRDP

Inappropriate question.

Besides, there's no real answer for this, it's different for everyone.
That, and some people...even on a lot of T, might never grow a full beard and such.
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aleon515

A very low dose and you might not pass after 4 years, with a higher dose some people start passing at maybe 3-5 months and some still longer. Some are really passing before T. Passing depends on many factors besides secondary sex characteristics that T gives  you, but i stand by my statement that some people couldn't pass without them.
So there is my answer.

BTW, re: doctor it is often an endo. But some people get their T from a GP or internist. (At least here in the US.) There are endos here:
http://www.lauras-playground.com/transgender_endocrinologist_list.htm
You can also look around Susan's. I think these have NOT been updated. There are several trusted people here in NM and I don't think any of them are on the list. There may be a LGBT resource center with info.

--Jay
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wheat thins are delicious

Quote from: GentlemanRDP on December 15, 2012, 12:20:00 PM
Besides, there's no real answer for this, it's different for everyone.
That, and some people...even on a lot of T, might never grow a full beard and such.

Yep.


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mangoslayer

Dosage depends on the person, and you'll probably have to be on it the rest of your life.
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jmhfl7

Quote from: Simon on December 12, 2012, 03:21:42 PM
Google has a ton of resources. I quickly searched "transgender endocrinologist florida" and came up with a few names. Take some initiative to find out info. Btw, before you waste your money seeing an endo first you need to seek out a therapist. An endo will not give you T without a letter. This isn't something that magically happens overnight. It usually takes months of therapy to get a letter for T. Good Luck.

Thanks so much!
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jmhfl7

Quote from: Simon on December 12, 2012, 03:21:42 PM
Google has a ton of resources. I quickly searched "transgender endocrinologist florida" and came up with a few names. Take some initiative to find out info. Btw, before you waste your money seeing an endo first you need to seek out a therapist. An endo will not give you T without a letter. This isn't something that magically happens overnight. It usually takes months of therapy to get a letter for T. Good Luck.

Thanks for this info. I actually set it to Miami, FL on Google and did not find any... so my question to you (or anyone that knows)... does the endo have to be specialized in transgender or can it just be a regular endocrinologist?
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wheat thins are delicious

Quote from: jmhfl7 on December 19, 2012, 08:51:49 PM
Thanks for this info. I actually set it to Miami, FL on Google and did not find any... so my question to you (or anyone that knows)... does the endo have to be specialized in transgender or can it just be a regular endocrinologist?

Regular endo.  Just get a list of endos in your area (including those in surrounding areas you are willing to travel to).  Call their offices and ask if they work with trans patients. 


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jmhfl7

Quote from: wheat thins are delicious on December 19, 2012, 08:59:16 PM
Regular endo.  Just get a list of endos in your area (including those in surrounding areas you are willing to travel to).  Call their offices and ask if they work with trans patients.

Thank a whole lot!
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aleon515

You might google your city and transgender resources, see if you find anything. If you do people in your area might know who they trust.

--Jay
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