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Having both E and T???

Started by girl you look fierce, December 20, 2012, 08:48:42 PM

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If I understood things well, testosterone is a "dominant" hormone. Where some sort of competition between T and E should happen, T will most likely win. At the same time, it's not like E will be -useless-, but I'm thinking its effects would be vastly reduced.

This is pure speculation, but since basic behaviour is not to have breasts (children don't), testosterone wouldn't need to tell your chest to become breasts, so maybe the way would be free for growth. And since basic behaviour is (I think) to have fat everywhere like females, males having developed the storage of fat mostly in the belly to keep maximum mobility and strength in their more physical abilities (again super mega speculated), testosterone -would- have a say in the location of fat storage, so estrogen wouldn't be able to do anything.

Maybe.

But in any case, you should have your testosterone put down as soon as possible. It's clearly not going to get you optimal results.
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Padma

The doc at my gender clinic reckons at least a third of trans women need anti-androgens as well as estrogen, to bring their T levels down to an appropriate level.
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Padma

Size doesn't matter :D - it's more about what your pre-hrt T levels were. And some people just have more efficient T factories than others. My T wouldn't stay low without an anti-androgen.
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Padma

Well, that's a nice solstice present, innit :).
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A

The receptivity of your cells has nothing to do with it. It's how well your digestive system/skin takes it in that determines the dose/blood level ratio. That and your weight.
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TSH: Thyroid stimulating hormone. Nothing to do with MTF HRT per se. However if your TSH has an issue, your thyroid probably has one, which can leadto various problems including depression and metabolism disbalances.
Thyroxine: Another thyroid hormone. Not sure what it does exactly, but again, nothing to do with HRT per se.
FSH: Follicle stimulating hormone. It's what's telling your testicles to produce T and sperm.
SHBG: Sex hormone-binding globulin. It's a protein that links to estradiol and/or testosterone, making it unable to interact with your cells, but also keeping it "in storage" for some eventual deficiency. If you happen to have tons of SHBG, I guess it actually could affect how useful HRT is for you.

What I meant was that skin (well, it's skin - I'm guessing clogged pores and tons of other factos can make one's skin more or less absorbing of transdermal HRT than anothers') and the digestive system (because your pills go through acid and enzymes designed to destroy protein, and hormones are proteins, and also because the liver acts as a doorman, eliminating some of your hormones [my understanding of this is limited]) have varying levels of what proportion of the hormones entering the body end up in the blood stream.

As for weight, it's simple. Dissolve one cube of sugar in one small glass of water and taste it. Then dissolve it in a large glass of water. It won't be nearly as sweet. It's the same for hormones. The taller/fatter/generally larger you are, the more blood you have. So the same pills of estradiol won't have the same effects on a skinny dwarf than on a large giant.

This is why endos go by blood levels (picomole per LITRE), instead of absolute doses, to determine HRT. Because everyone is different. If they just gave X pills a day to everyone, they'd run into problems, because some would overdose and others would see no difference.
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