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Started by gina_taylor, October 26, 2005, 03:55:40 PM

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Leigh

With a court ordered name change the SSA will change it.

Before 911 changing the gender marker with the SSA was much simpler.  Now they require supporting documentaion that an actual change has taken place.  Once you submit it they ammend the records so that only an F or M appear.  I suppose somewhere there is info about the old one but to a normal search if can't be found.

I don't know this for fact but I've heard that when an employer submits the info on a new job hire if there are any discrepencies they notify the employer.  This could lead to some embarassing moments for a person in transition if the employer is oblivious to what is going on.
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Shelley

So I'm right then that you would not be able to search for a job as a female as all your ID would be in a male persona. This is my concern for Gina trying to locate work without telling prospective employers she is transitioning.

Shelley
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Terri-Gene

Quotetrying to locate work without telling prospective employers she is transitioning.

This can be a concern, but is almost randomly the case a TS has to face.  Working with other people, especially in close environments and the chance that if you make any friends on the job with someone who does or may associate with people who know you closer and better, there is every likely hood that you will eventually be discovered anyway. 

This is one of the reasons why each transitioning TS must be absolutly certain and convinced they can endure the process before making the Transition effort to go forward, as in most cases it is impossible to not have evident clues as to ones actual sexual identity and therefore almost impossible to hide from the company one works for, or from some of the employees, what we call confidence, determination and concentration of effort, as you can not quit or revert back to male even if you change your mind in any way that will leave you untouched and possibly unharmed by the incident. 

Those that have any doubt whatsoever. NONE, as even the most trusted of things can't be taken for granted. You either make it through or possibly be even worse off then ever before, or learn to adjust to a groundless being you started off believing your psych couldn't  tolerate to begin with.  All you can do at such points is remain concentrated on your goals and stick to them with no bad thoughts or worries other then continuing to be who you are regardless of outside circumstances, thats all there is for a transsexual, live it and make it, there can be no other choice, and for the true and original definition of a Transsexual as originally defined at the beginning of HBSOC and DMV definitions of what a transsexual actually is, a person who's sole intellectual and habitual being is of the opposite sex with little or no tolerance for living in life as the sex born as, all other definitions are the result of more modern definitions of those in society who do not wish to actually be of the opposite sex, not from clinical medical definition

And by the way.  Think of another definition of what RLT is actually all about.  It's not really about proving you are a woman, little of that at all, rather a clearing house of wiping away those that can't handle the life changes that occur on acount of trying to do it in the first place.  It's more realistically about "Can you handle the problems involved and succeed in life because of those problems?"

All this is why it is sometimes important where you live at the time of transitioning.  We passed a statewide law against Sexual Identity agaist discrimination here in California which has been effective since Jan 01 2004 and a measure against such things as medical restrictions on account of Transsgender activity was put into measure a couple or few months back.  Pay attention to things like this in the where of transitioning.  The wrong city or state elsewhere could leave you pretty dry, thats why I came to california at the beginning of the 21st centry.  I was already in dark water back in Nevada where I came to here from, but I was born in Southern California and so am a California Native, making it all somewhat better as once hired, no employer can release me without a legitimate reason or lawsuit by this time.  All that was figured into coming out on HRT before I did it and the arrangements were made with a lot of help from others who wanted to help me out with it, right down to where I would work without myself even considering such a career.

Think about things like that when planning to come out and where to do it at.  And in your own best interest, unless under sever pressure for money, to inform any prospective employer the truth about yourself as most likely, that persecptive employer will at some time in the future discover the truth and can make you totally visable to everyone, even in a new enviro

Terri

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gina_taylor

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Sorry for not disclosing the complete information. I had started at Beall's Department store in the stocking room. It really wouldn't have been too much trouble to have transitioned in that department, since there are some ladies that do work in this departmnent.  :) In the employee handbook it gave me a page about the code of ethics, but I don't think it would have applied to me.  :)

Gina
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Terri-Gene

 
QuoteIn the employee handbook it gave me a page about the code of ethics, but I don't think it would have applied to me. 

Part true and part not true Gina.  One of the first things to do in any new company is to see what thier past activity is and how it might be and then you relate yourself into what they got just in case.

Terri
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gina_taylor

I'm not sure if I understand what you mean Terri, but the code of ethics is simply stating that I should first think about what I'm going to do and how it will affect the company or  myself before I do it. Most of the population of where I live knows about me and my lifestyle, so I've got nothing to lose by transitioning. 

I have retuned back to my previous work, and I'm still getting a lot of flack from my employer about transitioning. Kind of the same situation that Melissa is having.

Gina
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Terri-Gene

QuoteAnything that slows me down is just a hurdle that I need to go around.  It may slow me down a bit, but it won't stop me.

Good thought Melissa, hang onto it.  A lot of things happen in life that you are or were not prepared for.  Just hold your mug and work through it step by step and you will find a way to see things through if only you refuse to panic at any time under circumstances that are inevitably normal for those who need to see it all the way and it starts on day one of actually coming out,  no other way.

Terri
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gina_taylor

That's a very good attitude Melissa, and I wish that I had your will power, but my mother seems to break through everything with me. Last night she was telling me that the reason that I'm transgender is because of the damage to the frontal lobe of my brain which controls the social behavior part. I really fear of losing everything, but then it may be worth it.

Gina
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gina_taylor

Thanks Melissa for giving me something to smile about. Your kind heartfelt words really mean alot to me,and I will definately give them a lot of thought.  But you are right on your points. It's just a matter of figuring out what is best for me.  :)

Gina
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Terri-Gene

Good advice Melissa, but is  hard to put in that kind of perspective for some or many.

JOB:  This is a thing that few can easily work out with true satisfaction.  My job which was pretty good at things like money, interests, friendships and most of the things I at the time thought to be of interest to me was closed like a slammed door when I no longer looked like I was supposed to and to quote my Boss at the time "I can't support your 'Lifestyle' any more".  back in Reno Nevada.  I tried to take my reputation and skills elsewhere and found I was basically blacklisted.  I ended up going back into commercial steel framing that I had sidelined at part time for almost 30 years and even then had to work by myself, doing work that superceded 2 and 3 men teams.  I didn't mind that to much since I was equal to 2 or 3 men in those days, but after almost 3 years of that I just had to say, screw it, enough is enough and moved to california to take a hospital job a friend offered me.  NOwhere near even half the money I made before, and these days, after 4 years on this job I've lost everything I ever had but my woman and children ....  All I have left at all from the prior period is a classic Corvette I got in the bad ol days, and it hasn't been registered for half a year now and it just sits in park in front of my apartment as I can't afford to drive a 2 miles per gallon car these days (has a 454 Corvette jacked out powerplant.  LS5 turbo jet power plant and close ratio muncie 4 speed and on bad days gets 435 horse power.  I just hang onto it anymore as insurance if I get stuck in the savings plan and have to sell it.

PERSONAL Relationships.   This one is tricky.  I didn't lose any of my own family, but I lost a lot of others who had been all the way and back twice with me under conditions nobody would want to be in, that's rough considering what we all once ment to each other, win, lose or draw and I miss those people as much as I would miss losing my woman as long as she will stand with me, even though she can be rough on me at times over it all.  She comes from a military family.

Personal Belongings.   I already explained that.

HEALTH,  The biggest thing my woman holds against me.  At best I'm not looking at much no matter what.  I'm chronic Hep C with not much more then 10 to 15 years max with the best of care and I've already had one stroke and My body is coming apart from all the bone breakage, holes and cuts all over it.  Not to mention having lost vision of my right eye.  Either way, all I'll get in the end is whats left,  and most of that I don't expect to be easy or painless.  None of that matters because it's either way.

So the way I address it is "come on, do me some harm, I can take it".

Terri
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Dennis

And from the unduly peppy part of the spectrum:

Job: I like what I do (most days) and I love where I work. It's been nothing but supportive transitioning at work. Well, downright funny some days, but that's just part of my job too. I'm a divorce and criminal lawyer, so if we can't laugh, we'd all have to have a mass pity parth.

Personal belongings: I had too many anyway and the divorce helped me cut down on them.

Health: I'm healthier than ever. But I do need to quit smoking.

Dennis
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Leigh

 

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1. Your age you start transition.

The more a person has accumulated in life the harder it is for some to divest themselves of it.  Lose my job and family?  That is to much to sacrifice.

Quote2. Whether you are or become single or stay in a relationship.

How can someone make others in their life happy if they are in turmoil over whatever set of initials they identify as?

Quote3. What field you work in or have skills in.

Learn a new skill.  Start over and know what its like to be given the lack of recognition when you are paid 30% less for the same job-in most cases. 

Quote4. How well you pass. Beautiful people (men or women) tend to get paid better than ugly people. That's just how it is.

Its about transitioning not money.  If this is something a person truly wants there is no obstacle other than health issues they cannot overcome.  Live a frugal life, get a second job to survive.

I'm sorry but I cannot accept that money is a detriment to transitioning.   Ya ain't going to need cable tv or that new car if you don't survive.

Leigh

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