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Can anyone recommend a person to train me to sing in female range?

Started by Shawn Sunshine, January 04, 2013, 10:21:14 AM

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Shawn Sunshine

Ok well I was talking with Kathe Perez and she has some great tools for learning to speak female, but she did not have any options or know of anyone to teach me to sing female.

I am looking for someone who is affordable who can help me train my voice to go from tenor to soprano (if that's possible)

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Annah

she probably couldn't find anyone for you because that is somewhat of an odd request :)

You want to learn to talk feminine first....then you can hire a vocal singing coach.

Speaking feminine first should always occur first.  Singing in Soprano for you may never happen...even many cis girls don't sing in soprano.
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Shawn Sunshine

No she said she didn't know anyone, but that there was a few vocal trainers that probably do.

I can sing like a girl in a falsetto voice, like for instance I can imitate debbie gibson to a degree , but what did you do Annah to get your voice from bass to soprano?

getting to alto would be nice though, i have to imagine that learning to speak feminine would carry over into singing, just like my current speaking voice does now.
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toxicblue

Quote from: peky on January 04, 2013, 11:40:43 AM
Michael Jackson comes to mind

Michael Jackson just uses his head voice, but in a way he does slightly inflect his voice towards the feminine degree. But your head voice isn't what you want to train, it's moreso getting your falsetto and higher parts of your vocal chords to dominate over the lower ones. If you're used to projecting with your lower ones, which, I'm sure everyone is, then it would be quite a learning curve, but certainly not impossible.
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Shawn Sunshine

Well Nick Pitera on You Tube has a super duper good falsetto voice that sounds very realistic as a woman.
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Anatta

Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on January 04, 2013, 10:21:14 AM
Ok well I was talking with Kathe Perez and she has some great tools for learning to speak female, but she did not have any options or know of anyone to teach me to sing female.

I am looking for someone who is affordable who can help me train my voice to go from tenor to soprano (if that's possible)

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::) This might help :

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smooth

If you're in the UK have a look at electrabeauty.com Jenna does voice coaching, singing etc, multi talented, smart.
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Shawn Sunshine

I am in Texas, but i will look at that. It would be ever nicer if i had someone that could teach me voice/singing at the same time.
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Natkat

pre T I where suprano now tenor but I try to keep my high Tone voice as I like to sing songs who goes in waves from low to high and back again.

I am not really a singing teacher or anything, but for myself my advice would be if to make some singing exercises for high tones. you know the scale.. CDEFGABC down and up thing.

and when you are to sing something high make sure your dont flex your muslces too much in your jaw but try to relax, use your stomack not your troat and make sure you have enough air and dont be scared to make too much noice. I find it rather difficult to make a high pitch sound if I try to do it sillent or worry about my neighbour so dont care about that just give all you got and dont hold back.

it my advice.
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peky

Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on January 04, 2013, 03:24:09 PM
I can't be trained by him, well because he's dead.  :'(

Oh dear! are you sure? somebody told me that he and Elvis were in Vegas!

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Assoluta

Instead of attempting to sing soprano, and only confining yourself to an ordinary female vocal range, you can make the use of your lower tones and still sound female, just one with a deeper voice. Or what I do, which is to sound like somebody with an androgynous voice or a female voice with masculine elements, allowing me to use more of my voice. If you simply wish to sing in a high soprano range only, it's unlikely you'll be able to sing with as much expression as you want, unless you have an exceptional voice like Vitas in the video above.

If you google techniques on "mixed voice" this will also be useful - this will allow you to sing much higher than you probably can at the moment in a strong register which is almost as strong as chest voice. It is tricky, but once perfected, is much more effortless than singing in chest voice and you can hold high, strong notes for a long time. In a nutshell, it combined the lighter head voice and adds a bit of 'chestiness' to it, to make it stronger. It's something that I have become better at in recent times and I can now sing a good mix up to B4 (C5 on a good day) which is not unusual for an alto/contralto female singer unless singing opera (in which case even a singer classified as a contralto may sing higher). Head voice can also be strengthened so it isn't so light and breathy, and I can get up to an F5 with that, with other male voiced people I know able to go even higher than that. I've taken voice lessons for a couple of years now, so you can PM me if you want more detailed info. I'm not an expert or teacher, but I have reasonably decent experience, and from a trans perspective.

And don't worry if your voice sounds a bit masculine, personally I find it interesting when the gender of the voice is ambiguous, or people gender the singing voice differently, but that's just me.

An interesting example is this - Zarah Leander (a woman, who as far as we know, was not trans) but when I've played this to people - some were convinced it was a man singing, others thought that it didn't quite sound like a man but was deep. But nonetheless, it isn't a conventional female voice, but an easily attainable starting point to sing for a male voiced woman.



As for singing teachers, I've had a male countertenor teach me before, and I told him my situation so he knew what the deal was with my voice - that's an option.
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A

Shelagh Davies, from British Columbia, Canada, does that. Through Skype, as well. Actually, she coaches singers AND trans people. Shouldn't be terribly hard for her to coach a singer who's trans. However, she is just as "affordable" as Kathe Perez. Something like 100 $ an hour. Very rich people only. >_>
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luna nyan

Assoluta has good advice.  You don't have to have soprano range to be able to sing in a feminine/andro manner.
The other option you have is to look at learning to sing counter-tenor, working on gaining a near feminine tonality/projection, but that will require a lot of work and is difficult.

I'm out of practice with my singing, but my current range is somewhere around a F2 to B4 without resorting to falsetto.  In fact, my falsetto is that weak that I can only get an E3 out with it, and it sounds terrible :P

Slow careful practice without forcing things will allow you to gain some range over time - the voice is another muscle, and training it will take time.
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