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Started by Shana A, January 06, 2013, 02:00:37 PM

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Quote from: sophieoftn on February 19, 2013, 01:59:14 PM
Any time there is progress on a civil rights issue -- there will always, always be regressives amping up their protests against the group who's basic rights are being advanced. However, we must not allow that to intimidate us from pursuing progress.
Problem is -- deeming someone to be unsuitable just because who they are.

If a transwoman's hairstyle is deemed "inappropriate" when it is one that would be considered perfectly appropriate were only it on a cis-woman --- that is unjust discrimination --- and in a sensible society would be met with the fullest force of the law.

Yes --- I admit that if I were to go into a Christian bookstore looking for a job, and were wearing five-inch stilletos and an outfit skimpier than the one worn by women of the original STAR TREK series - they'd be well in their right to reject me because of that. (Of course, this assumes that they would similarly reject a cis-woman who does the same thing --- but that assumption isn't too far-fetched if we're talking about a Christian bookstore.)

However, if I were in a situation where I was worried about being evicted because I can't pay rent --- and in desperation combed the classifieds and applied to that same Christian bookstore wearing an extremely conservative attire -- yet a female one --- sorry, but I shouldn't have to face eviction from my home because someone else believes that me being trans is anti-God.

Likewise, I can see justice if someone won't hire a person on a wheelchair to do a job who's function involves carrying stuff on two feet. However -- if someone believes that being wheelchair-bound is a punishment from God -- well, they have the right to believe that, but not the right to make the job-applicant who is in a wheelchair bear the brunt of said belief if the job in question is, say, a desk-job. And if the law permits such nonsense -- then it is a toothless joke of a law.
Here, they are way too lax on discrimination --- and the burden-of-proof put on victims of discrimination is way beyond what anyone in their right mind would consider "realistic".

Understand your concerns and as I said, I have no actual knowldge of US employments law. I was simply making the point that these scare stories by this guy are just that.
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Jess42

This is just my opinion and only mine alone. These bookstores and so on are businesses. Bottom line is the all mighty dollar. That pretty much is what most everyone can agree upon to worship, christian bookstore, music store Wal Mart and the list goes on. I run my own business but it's just me that owns and works it. You have to pander to the customer base. I am transgender in being one way on the outside with subtle hints and feeling totally oposite on the inside. If I ever decided to open a christian bookstore myself, which I wouldn't, I would have no problem hiring transgender, gay and lesbians. Hell, I'd even hire a Christian. ;D But the bottom line is that the customer is always "right" and even if not kiss their backside and make them feel good so that they keep coming back and throwing their cash at you... So with that said, I would dress the part and act the part of a christian bookstore owner and would ask the same from my employees. A uniform of sort and there are plenty of companys out there that require you to wear one.

Would I work for a Christian bookstore? Nah, not my thing. If I had to, could I? Most certainly. I would dress the part, except for the hair, remember Jesus had long hair in all the so-called portraits of him being European which actually makes me laugh. If someone is offensively ignorant(true sense of the word), like a lot of people are, I would just try to expand their minds a little. If they say something like God hates gays, comeback and ask if Jesus would turn away a gay person or man dressed as a woman or vice versa seeking help. Well, you know what they would say. Something like, "No, he would help them overcome their "homosexuality". Then you can always ask, What if that person can't walk? and on and on. Eventually it may lead to a more enlightened way of thinking for the individual. But then again I love trying to expand people's minds.

I don't know but I'm not an activist. I'm more of a let me live my life and you live yours kind of person. If I want to dress in heels and a skirt and I can't land a job because of it, so be it. I would seek a job that I could present myself openly. If I want a job badly and it's something I enjoy doing and have to conform with what the owner wants, then I have to decide but my own time is my time and shouldn't even be a consideration for employment or the employer's business. Or do like I did, work for yourself, put up with the crap for short periods of time then go back to wearing short shorts, sandals and a tanktop or whatever you choose to wear.

I don't care about acceptance as much as mutual respect. You have to ask for acceptance but you can demand respect. I accept and respect myself, who cares if anyone else does?

In my opinion and observations, a lot of activism like this leads to more resentment. The in your face approach don't really work because it doesn't do anything but reinforce their stereotypical ideals. You can go farther by being slow and steady than sitting in the same spot spinning your wheels and burning perfectly good rubber.
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