Susan's Place Logo

News:

Please be sure to review The Site terms of service, and rules to live by

Main Menu

clocked!

Started by PHXGiRL, January 09, 2013, 02:38:50 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

PrettySoldier

I don't know if anyone watches The Real Housewives of NY but if you do then you know Heather. She's pretty but she is probably the most masculine looking woman I've seen & she's a very confident, successful woman, mother & wife. But honestly if someone told me she was Trans I wouldn't doubt them at all.





Bishoujo
The Queen:
  •  

muuu

#41
.
  •  

peky

Yeah. we are the harshest judges of 'femininity," and IMOHO our definition of "femininity" is really "screw," and totally unrealistic.

And please note that  this post is not directed to anyone so do not get your panties in a "scrunch."
  •  

Michelle G

Note: some mornings I swear I feel I look like this ;)

A couple from"mob wives" reality show



Just a "California Girl" trying to enjoy each sunny day
  •  

JessicaH

Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on January 09, 2013, 03:15:26 PM
well here is another of Amelie Marusemo, just standing there



Take away the long hair and she would look very boyish, it is all relative anyways, every human has different features, sometimes men are so feminine and androgynous as well.


Boyish???  I'd say her pic needs to be in the "Could I pass one day".
  •  

Seras

My god Michelle, that second picture is terrifying  :o
  •  

MaidofOrleans

Quote from: Michelle G on January 10, 2013, 02:08:37 PM
Note: some mornings I swear I feel I look like this ;)

A couple from"mob wives" reality show





Is that...is that bacon?
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
  •  

NotThereYet

Looking at some of the comments here, I think I am going to take down the picture from my avatar...
  •  

Elspeth

Quote from: NotThereYet on January 10, 2013, 11:19:39 AM
It's like this apparent obsession with breast size and b cups, c cups, etc. A c cup won't make you more of a woman, and a double a won't make you any less.

I don't think any of us were suggesting it would. Ciswomen also experience their own forms of dysphoria when it comes to appearance. Part of me would really like to look like Ginnifer Goodwin, but even if I had trasitioned at age 10, that's was not likely to happen. And it is the wiser choice to focus on inner beauty... at least it's something most of us will need to do to some degree, especially late bloomers like myself. I'm really becoming a great admirer of Lana Wachowski's look, for instance. And maybe some of this comes from appreciating my son's focus, even though he's young enough that, with basic FTM transition assists (top surgery and T) he could become very "passable" in a few years. Yet that doesn't really seem to be a central goal for him, and not nearly one that as many people are now focussed on, compared to how these conversations tended to go, say, 15 or 20 years ago, when I first was entering into them.

Still, I think we all have our dreams and fantasies, and sometimes we do express them. Try not to let it become something that's about you, because most of the time it isn't.

Much of my own fixation on breast size has to do with my father and his Welsh background. I have a lot of bras in one range of sizes that I hope may be wearable once I've developed. Chances are probably tiny that will happen, but I did base the size on my sense of what seemed likely. Granted, it was more based on what would have been probable if I had entered HRT 10 years ago or earlier.
"Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future."
- Sonmi-451 in Cloud Atlas
  •  

8888

A square jaw isn't really a sign of masculinity or high testosterone; Asian men tend to have the squarest jaws yet the lowest T, while African men tend to have shapeless jaw lines but highest T (more masculine).

Testosterone does increase bone growth however, so a square jaw which is BIG can be labelled as "masculine", just like a large chin, long face, neanderthal forehead and so on. If you look at female models you'll notice how most of them have well defined jaws. The midface length is a better indicator whether someone might be trans.
  •  

NotThereYet

What's the "mid face length"? Can you please explain/elaborate?

Thanks! :-)

Andrea
  •  

Assoluta

Masculinity/androgyny isn't uncommon in the modelling world - in fact I don't often see many girly looking curvy women as models (although I think there should be a more diverse range) - the use of the "masculine eyebrow" on an andro-ish face as a trend for example:



One of the most masculine women I've seen - Gertrude Stein (younger)



and Gertrude Stein older - could easily be taken for an old man here.



Another woman with masculine features, but a striking beauty



Wada Akiko

It takes balls to go through SRS!

My singing and music channel - Visit pwetty pwease!!!:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Kibouo?feature=mhee
  •