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Started by BeverlyAnn, May 15, 2007, 01:30:41 PM

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katia

i respect people who deserve my respect. i take no shame in the fact that i do not treat every person equally. none. and I rejoice at seeing the death of falwell because he was somebody who i think the world is much, much better without.
there are other christians who i do think make the world a better place, and i certainly wouldn't rejoice at their death. likewise, there are some atheists i can't stand, who i'd feel no remorse over if they died. no religion holds a monopoly on cretins. i mourn the loss of those i care about, and i rejoice at the loss of people i hate. this isn't rocket science.
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ShyGothGirl

Quote from: Katia on May 16, 2007, 01:14:41 AM
...and i rejoice at the loss of people i hate.

Then are you not just sinking to their level?

"It's so awful that they hate us, so I am gonna hate back and give them a reason to hate me more, so I will hate them more..." and on and on and on...

*sighs*

Just seems extraordinarily hypocritical to me...
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RebeccaFog

hate is the thing with poisoned spikes.
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Sarah Louise

I'm sorry for his family, but I won't miss him (or others who "at times" preach hate).

Sometimes all preachers teach things that are not Biblical, things that fit "their own" agenda's both personally or politically.

Sarah L.
Nameless here for evermore!;  Merely this, and nothing more;
Tis the wind and nothing more!;  Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore!!"
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Lisbeth

I hear that Fred Phelps is going to be protesting at his funeral.
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
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gennee

It's sad when anybody loses a family member. I agreed with Mr. Fallwell some things, disagreed on others but I respected and admired him. Mu sympathy goes out to his family.

Gennee


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BeverlyAnn

Interesting.  I didn't add any comments when I posted the news bulletin so that I wouldn't influence the comments that followed.  As I say, interesting.  Personally I found Jerry Fallwell to be a divisive influence on society and did not care for his theological leanings at all.  However, he was a husband and father so I do feel sympathy for his family even as I don't shed tears for him.

Beverly
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RebeccaFog

   I always had the sense that his public persona was probably harsher than his private one. I don't know this, but I would bet that he treated the people against whom he railed better than we suspect when he would meet them in person.
   I don't know this either, but I think that some of these divisive figures put forth what we perceive as a mean persona because it allows them to hammer on specific points in an overly simplified fashion which allows their audiences to comprehend them on more of a gut level than a brainy level.
   It's like Howard Stern, who many people claim is a polite and quite man in his personal life, but is a cartoon character in public. I think there are a lot of these people who do this. I believe Stern is a very intelligent man, but down shifts on purpose.

Just my theory.

I'm also surprised that we've devoted this many Bytes to the guy. I guess he accomplished what he wanted to.
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Attis

I think it's sad he has died, only because he has not learned the final lesson one must learn to be a complete human animal: solace in the reality you probably will never know or understand everything. I say that, because in contrast, Ayn Rand herself showed this trait as she approached her final years of her own life, even privately retracting her stance against homosexuality as the science (in the late 1970s) was showing signs of favoring a biological origin for it. For Falwell, I never seen this in his character, so whatever judgment I have of his character still stands. I won't say his death was good or bad, because death is simply the end of an existence, and nothing more. It's an end to a story. A story, which I think could have ended better.

-- Brede
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katia

i'll never forgive myself.  how could i have said the "h" word?  shame on me!  ::)  i stand by what i posted.  i love, i hate, i'm human, and lots of other things but i'm not a hypocrite.
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ShyGothGirl

 :D you have you're opinion, I have mine... still love ya girl. *Hugglez*  ;D
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RebeccaFog

   I want to take back what I said about the guy maybe only putting on the hate for his audience. I read some articles and I think he was more of a menace than I thought.
   I still don't hate him because it's a waste of my good self to do so. I definitely disapprove of the divisiveness of his stances.

   I want to apologize because I always try to see the best in other people. {I'm not apologizing for trying to find the good. I'm apologizing because I wasted my time, and yours, doing so in this case.}
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BeverlyAnn

Was anyone aware of the fact that, before he came out as a gay man, Rev. Dr. Mel White (founder of SoulForce) ghost wrote two of Falwell's books (If I Should Die Before I Wake and Strength for the Journey)?

Beverly
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Lisbeth

Quote from: BeverlyAnn on May 17, 2007, 10:12:51 AM
Was anyone aware of the fact that, before he came out as a gay man, Rev. Dr. Mel White (founder of SoulForce) ghost wrote two of Falwell's books (If I Should Die Before I Wake and Strength for the Journey)?
I was.  But then you expected that, didn't you.
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--Julia Serano

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BeverlyAnn

Quote from: Lisbeth on May 17, 2007, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: BeverlyAnn on May 17, 2007, 10:12:51 AM
Was anyone aware of the fact that, before he came out as a gay man, Rev. Dr. Mel White (founder of SoulForce) ghost wrote two of Falwell's books (If I Should Die Before I Wake and Strength for the Journey)?
I was.  But then you expected that, didn't you.

Well duh.  Yeah from you and Kristi and a couple of others.  BTW, got a copy of The Message.  Interesting to say the least.

Beverly
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Sarah Louise

Having worked in Christian (in management) publishing, I can tell you there are many "dark," well hidden secrets only know among insiders of the industry.

Sarah L.
Nameless here for evermore!;  Merely this, and nothing more;
Tis the wind and nothing more!;  Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore!!"
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cindianna_jones

Quote from: Sarah Louise on May 17, 2007, 11:08:42 AM
Having worked in Christian (in management) publishing, I can tell you there are many "dark," well hidden secrets only know among insiders of the industry.

Sarah L.

yeah.... money can do that to just about any worthwhile cause ;)

Cindi
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Sarah Louise on May 17, 2007, 11:08:42 AM
Having worked in Christian (in management) publishing, I can tell you there are many "dark," well hidden secrets only know among insiders of the industry.

Sarah L.

Hey, you can't just say that and then not give us the scoop.   :-\
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Sarah Louise

I will say it and leave it at that.  All information I have is in the past, I have not worked in Christian publishing for many many years.  And airing their dirty laundry does not help anyone.  So many major authors books are ghost written.

All I was really trying to say is that People are People, no matter what their belief system is.  There are no perfect Christians.

Sorry.

Sarah L.
Nameless here for evermore!;  Merely this, and nothing more;
Tis the wind and nothing more!;  Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore!!"
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Sarah Louise on May 17, 2007, 12:07:58 PM
I will say it and leave it at that.  All information I have is in the past, I have not worked in Christian publishing for many many years.  And airing their dirty laundry does not help anyone.  So many major authors books are ghost written.

All I was really trying to say is that People are People, no matter what their belief system is.  There are no perfect Christians.

Sorry.

Sarah L.

It's okay. I was just goofing. I need to find a way of letting people know when I'm doing that.
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