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Started by Justin 21, January 11, 2013, 07:40:06 PM

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Tejas

Quote from: aleon515 on January 13, 2013, 10:25:35 PM
It's kind of funny. Us guys will spend hours talking about various packers and prosthetics. A mtf friend of mine can't get the slightest straight answer on breast implants.

I guess it means via la difference. :)

--Jay

As in others are unwilling to share information?
"Sometimes you have to get knocked down lower than you have ever been to stand up taller than you ever were before.  Sometimes your eyes need to be washed by your tears so you can see the possibilities in front of you with a clearer vision again. Don't settle."
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aleon515

@Deven, yeah pretty much.

--Jay
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supremecatoverlord

Quote from: DianaP on January 12, 2013, 07:55:30 AM

For being human?
No, because of body dysphoria and overall loneliness.
Meow.



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Tejas

Quote from: aleon515 on January 13, 2013, 11:39:12 PM
@Deven, yeah pretty much.

--Jay

Oh, interesting.  Didn't know.
I remember my ex-roommate who's an mtf saying something about a new kind of material that's lighter than silicon, but more durable and doesn't fall apart in the body, but still needs to be replaced every decade(?) or something. But that's as much as I know if you want to throw that out there to your friend. Haha, I'll stop now as this isn't the thread for it.  (Be cool if some of us guys can just give away our "extra fat." FAIR TRADE!)
"Sometimes you have to get knocked down lower than you have ever been to stand up taller than you ever were before.  Sometimes your eyes need to be washed by your tears so you can see the possibilities in front of you with a clearer vision again. Don't settle."
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Elspeth

Quote from: Deven on January 13, 2013, 11:47:59 PM
Oh, interesting.  Didn't know.
I remember my ex-roommate who's an mtf saying something about a new kind of material that's lighter than silicon...

My impression has been that there's such a widespread sense of risks and negative impacts from breast implants that, speaking just for myself, and assuming I had had them, I wouldn't want to say anything to endorse them, for fear that I was recommending something toxic. Also, the publicly available info on implants (and their drawbacks) is pretty widely available in the press available to ciswomen and transwomen alike. Many of us, not having had implants yet (and many of us taking a "wait and see" attitude) often just don't have much personal insight to add to what's already widely available. Whereas issues surrounding packing and more complicated implants seem to come up (forgive the double entendre) much earlier in transition for FTMs -- I've been discussing them openly with (or at least listening to) my son about implants (not a lot about packing, but he doesn't ask me about prosthetic breasts either) ever since he made it clear he's trans, and he is presently at the presenting without top surgery stage, sans testosterone. 

I don't know for sure whether this is as true as it once was, but most MTFs I've known tend to drop off the support forums once they've gotten to a point where their main concerns are dealing with life as a woman, unrelated to trans-specific concerns.  If I encounter them online at all, they are usually, except for some activists, presenting themselves as female and not calling attention to their trans-ness.

Practically speaking, if I were looking for insights on implants, I'd probably look to a more general forum where women of all kinds were more likely to post, since that would almost certainly be a fairly active forum with many, many examples and a fairly open willingness to share and compare notes?

Maybe there's a by-product of female socialization going on here, just a little too? Even though cismen do sometimes also need implants, its probably something a lot of them, being socialized male and discouraged from showing "weakness" might tend to avoid discussing to anything like the degree that women are willing to discuss breast implants, something that's a lot more common among cis-women, even if it remains a little controversial, it's still discussed a lot.
"Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future."
- Sonmi-451 in Cloud Atlas
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aleon515

It was forms not implants.

--Jay
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