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Started by AlexD, February 08, 2013, 07:11:10 PM

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AlexD

So I'm clearly cis.

Yet I'd rather be dead than a girl.

What a marvellous ->-bleeped-<-ing situation.
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insideontheoutside

Are you open to taking hormones and all that? Or is it something that you're planning on but just can't do it for whatever reason now?

"Let's conspire to ignite all the souls that would die just to feel alive."
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AlexD

Cis people aren't allowed to do that.
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AdamMLP

Who/what/why is making you certain you're cis?

Wanting to be dead than a girl doesn't sound like the thoughts of the average cis person to me.
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JoanneB

Quote from: AlexanderC on February 08, 2013, 07:20:58 PM
Who/what/why is making you certain you're cis?

Wanting to be dead than a girl doesn't sound like the thoughts of the average cis person to me.
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Felix

Alex those statements aren't making a whole ton of sense. Peace and feel free to clarify.
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Adam (birkin)

Yeah, I am confused as well...if you feel you are cis, why are you unhappy at the idea of being a girl? Is there more to it than GID?
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Nero

Quote from: Caleb. on February 09, 2013, 05:59:59 AM
Is there more to it than GID?

Good point. Sometimes there *are* reasons cis females consider transition. Unfortunately, I know this from personal experience with a close relative. Alex, if you don't feel comfortable talking about it here, perhaps open up to someone you feel comfortable with on here or elsewhere. You don't know me very well, but I'm here too if you want to talk.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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AlexD

I'm just not trans enough to be trans. I think like a girl, I get emotional like a girl, I act like a girl, I used to like being a girl, I still don't feel "male" so much as "not female", and I know I'd make a terrible boy and nobody would be fooled for a second.

I'd still rather be dead than female. So what? Just means I need to start working on gathering the courage to finally kill myself. I was going to do it a year ago, but I got shoved into therapy. Fat lot of good that did.
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Joe.

Don't kill yourself. It won't achieve anything. This is hypocritical of me as I've been suicidal many times but please call one of the hotlines listed on this website. I know how it feels to rather be dead than alive, it is horrible. Just because you get emotional it doesn't make you any less of a guy. Being trans isn't about fooling anyone. I think you need to explore your gender identity further and see what feels like you. There's nothing wrong with the way you're feeling. We're all here for you whilst you try and work this out. If you ever need to talk to anyone please message me.

Joey
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Adam (birkin)

OK...first of all, I know how much you must be hurting and how confusing this is, but this does not justify taking your own life. Just because you don't fit cleanly into a box doesn't mean you're broken, flawed, or unworthy of living on this earth with the rest of us. You belong here.

Second, any one set of behaviours, thoughts, or emotions: those things don't make anyone male or female. It's about how you feel in your body and how you see yourself. I have lot of qualities that some might consider to be feminine too. I'm not dominating, I'm sensitive, I'd rather have my eyes on a book than a hockey or football game. I was terrified that when I transitioned, the men would ridicule me and the women would reject me. But that hasn't happened. Men used to be gruff and dismissive with me when they saw me as a woman, but now, these same types of men who now see me as a man are very warm and kind to me. That was a total shock, to be honest. Some women have made hurtful comments, but a lot of those women are simply not my type...even if I was stereotypically masculine, cisgender guy, and they wanted me, I wouldn't want them. At the same time, I have a lot of women who really appreciate the way I am, and think it makes me boyfriend/husband material...and those are the types of women I'd want to be with, anyway.

If you're a guy, you're a guy...your feelings and behaviours don't define that. And well, maybe you're not, but it's not because of your actions or emotions. My best advice here is, whatever you do, take gender out of the equation. Don't try to assign a gender to your emotions, interests, behaviours. The way that I think of it is this - our life is a picture. Our gender is just a part of that picture. Let the others parts of who you are fall into place - then you can see the whole picture and realize what is missing. Then you'll know if transition will complete that picture or not.
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FreshGuy

Quote from: Caleb. on February 10, 2013, 05:55:24 PM
OK...first of all, I know how much you must be hurting and how confusing this is, but this does not justify taking your own life. Just because you don't fit cleanly into a box doesn't mean you're broken, flawed, or unworthy of living on this earth with the rest of us. You belong here.

Second, any one set of behaviours, thoughts, or emotions: those things don't make anyone male or female. It's about how you feel in your body and how you see yourself. I have lot of qualities that some might consider to be feminine too. I'm not dominating, I'm sensitive, I'd rather have my eyes on a book than a hockey or football game. I was terrified that when I transitioned, the men would ridicule me and the women would reject me. But that hasn't happened. Men used to be gruff and dismissive with me when they saw me as a woman, but now, these same types of men who now see me as a man are very warm and kind to me. That was a total shock, to be honest. Some women have made hurtful comments, but a lot of those women are simply not my type...even if I was stereotypically masculine, cisgender guy, and they wanted me, I wouldn't want them. At the same time, I have a lot of women who really appreciate the way I am, and think it makes me boyfriend/husband material...and those are the types of women I'd want to be with, anyway.

If you're a guy, you're a guy...your feelings and behaviours don't define that. And well, maybe you're not, but it's not because of your actions or emotions. My best advice here is, whatever you do, take gender out of the equation. Don't try to assign a gender to your emotions, interests, behaviours. The way that I think of it is this - our life is a picture. Our gender is just a part of that picture. Let the others parts of who you are fall into place - then you can see the whole picture and realize what is missing. Then you'll know if transition will complete that picture or not.

Wow, that post is amazing! Sorry for jumping onto your thread AlexD but I found this post really useful for my own gender issues. I thought that because I did things like Zumba that I was definitely more of a trans but maybe this isn't the case and maybe I can live life as male. Since I started to worry that I was a transsexual, I have analysed every thing I do, the way I sit, the way I lie in bed, what masculine things I do, what feminine things I do and a whole myriad of other things from throughout my life.
Hopefully the peace of mind I have gained from this post will stay with me :)
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