A couple stp packer questions

[mangoslayer]

So i've just been using a STP that's not attached to my packer, and just pushing my packer out of the way when i use it but that's getting annoying. The main reason why i haven't modded my packer into an STP is because it's an expensive packer and i don't want to ruin it for something i might not even like.
I saved up enough points on edenfantasies to buy a mr right packer and i want to add an STP to it to try it out. I use a medicine spoon and have no problem with it whatsoever while its seperate from the packer but im not sure what it's gonna be like when i use it in a packer. so i just have a couple questions.

1. Where does the spoon sit while you're not using it? I'd imagine it'd be uncomfortable just sitting in between your legs
2. how would adjusting it to pee work? i don't want to walk up to a urinal and have to shove my hands in my pants and mess around with it. With just the spoon its firm enough to position it from outside my pants but latex tubing is way softer and i dont think it would be as easy to position
3. How do you wipe to clear off any excess piss? tugging at your cock seems like it would be pretty awkward.

[Jamison]

I personally much prefer my packer and STP separate because the dual just isn't comfortable and for the concerns you describe in your questions.

I've tried the nipple/med spoon/ and collapsable funnel. The best out of both for a dual is the funnel because it can fold against your body, but the rest just kinda jab you unless you move it against your body, resulting in an visible boner. I've always had to discretely adjust every time by shoving my hands down my pants, and the best you can do to clean it is point the tubing downwards and shake.

There's obviously problems with these kinds of STPs. The only one I've seen that doesnt have this problem is the peecock. Apparently you can hold the shaft and use to fingers on the same hand to position the funnel. No tubing involved and nothing jabbing against you. You'd still need to be careful about cleaning up after yourself, but I think it's better than the rest. There seems to be a larger learning curve though.

I've heard good things about Mr. Right, but I've also heard it's very large for a packer and very stiff- making for the perfect obscene boner. I don't think I'd convert this kind of packer to an STP, but that's just my 2 cents.

g'luck.

[mangoslayer]

There's obviously problems with these kinds of STPs. The only one I've seen that doesnt have this problem is the peecock. Apparently you can hold the shaft and use to fingers on the same hand to position the funnel. No tubing involved and nothing jabbing against you. You'd still need to be careful about cleaning up after yourself, but I think it's better than the rest. There seems to be a larger learning curve though.

I've heard good things about Mr. Right, but I've also heard it's very large for a packer and very stiff- making for the perfect obscene boner. I don't think I'd convert this kind of packer to an STP, but that's just my 2 cents.

g'luck.

I would like to try the peecock but i dont have the money right now. Hopefully once i find a job I'll have enough leftover money to buy one.
I've already got the mr right and i have nothing to lose since i got it for free. I've packed with it before (no stp) and it's big but it's fine as long as you dont wear sweatpants. It does kinda feel like a semi but i'm hoping that when i hollow it out to put in the tubing it wont feel so hard.