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First time going out in public

Started by Renae.Lupini, May 25, 2007, 06:00:31 PM

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Renae.Lupini

If you have done so, what was it like? If you haven't, what do you expect it to be like? (there is a point to this that I will make once people start responding)
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katia

it's been several years since that first time that i've forgotten all about it.  all i can say is that it was an enlightening experience.
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HelenW

I went out for the first time in broad daylight to go to my therapist.  The best part about it was that no one in the street paid me any attention whatsoever.  'Twas the first time I ever felt validated from being ignored! :D

hugs & smiles
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Suzy

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Kimberly

I would consider my first going out in a pink (RoseBlush technically) sweatshirt, um, last *shrug* November or something like that; No idea really.

A very nondescript trip to town. 'Course, it was to Denney's at the wee hours of the morning so that might have something to do with it.

*shrug*

I expected more stares, but it seems no one cares.
;)
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rhondabythebay

Women's Weekend in Guerneville, CA. It was very non eventful. I was feeling so good it must have shone thru. Like Kimberly, I was expecting more stares, but none materialized.

Quote from: HelenW on May 25, 2007, 09:05:09 PM
'Twas the first time I ever felt validated from being ignored! :D

Ditto.

Rhonda
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rhonda13000

It was..."electric"....

I felt alive.

I was 13 years old.
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gothique11

I didn't much of an issue. A bit nerve racking for the first few days, but I quickly discovered that this is what I need to do and I stopped caring what others might think.

About a month into living full time, I also appeared on TV. After that, I figured, "Well, if I can show myself to millions of people like this, taking the bus should be a breeze." By then I was pretty comfortable in public anyway, and my family knew about me, but some how the moment solidified the idea that I have nothing to worry about.

(I was on TV because I was being interviewed about my opinion on a school shooting in Montreal).
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Kate

Halloween, probably ten years ago.

My wife, a friend (girl) and I went to a local club, and later walked around town (it's a tourist/party town, very crowded).

I apparently actually passed, which totally shocked me, as a number of guys from the club came over and hit on us, lol. The funniest thing was two guys actually started whining to us about all the "men dressed up as women in there, what's WITH this sicko place?" or some such thing... not knowing they were complaining to one of the sickoes, lol.

This was the first time (and sadly, last time to date aside from a couple maams earlier this year) that I knew without a doubt that I was being perceived as a girl. God, did I cry when that started to sink in... I would have given ANYTHING to just stay there, and have that night never end. It was a magical evening I'll never forget.

~Kate~
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Yvonne

Having been forced to be "male" by my doctors and family since birth, the first time I decided to be me (I was sixteen) was a liberation of all sorts.  On that day, I swore that I'd never let anyone else decide for my existence and nobody has dared to so far. ;)
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sarahb

Sometime last year. I dressed up, walked to my car, drove to my sisters house (who knew already) and we went on a drive around town. The only time I actually got out though was to go to the bank. A man came in and didn't give me a second look. It was amazing!
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Keira


The most enerving experience for any TS I think is going into a crowded public bus at rush hour. In most cities, TS don't have to do it, or its not really an option (public transit is used by very few in the US, even in poor areas, except for some key cities).

Believe me, having a horde of school children, seniors, teens, adults of various origins, in your face litterally, it is quite enerving the first time (and even subsequent time unless your very self-assured). If you don't pass or feel you can't take it anymore, you can't jump off the bus until the next stop.

I think this kind of experience can only reallly be duplicated in big cities were there is an intense use of public transport and there are huge bus fleets. New-York, Chicago, Montreal, Toronto and Central LA (the buses in the central LA parts are as crowded as in NYC, I took them for awhile).

When I'm not all put together (look like crap days, hey it happens to us galls too) I sometimes feel intimidated when I have a flock of blond girls peering their deep blue eyes straight in mine for 30 minutes :-).



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seldom

Quote from: Keira on May 26, 2007, 05:44:48 PM

The most enerving experience for any TS I think is going into a crowded public bus at rush hour. In most cities, TS don't have to do it, or its not really an option (public transit is used by very few in the US, even in poor areas, except for some key cities).

Believe me, having a horde of school children, seniors, teens, adults of various origins, in your face litterally, it is quite enerving the first time (and even subsequent time unless your very self-assured). If you don't pass or feel you can't take it anymore, you can't jump off the bus until the next stop.

I think this kind of experience can only reallly be duplicated in big cities were there is an intense use of public transport and there are huge bus fleets. New-York, Chicago, Montreal, Toronto and Central LA (the buses in the central LA parts are as crowded as in NYC, I took them for awhile).

When I'm not all put together (look like crap days, hey it happens to us galls too) I sometimes feel intimidated when I have a flock of blond girls peering their deep blue eyes straight in mine for 30 minutes :-).





How about a crowded subway train filled with tourists. ;)
Getting around DC is an experience in mass transit as well.  My train stop in Arlington is near where they drop off all the school trips and tour groups.  Driving and parking in DC is literally a nightmare.  So I have to jump in the trains with all the tourists and teens on class trips.  I know how that feels. 

The thing is I have had several first experiences.  In my teens most people took me as a teenage girl anyway so it did not take much to present when I wanted to.  I did it pretty often, though I was quite a goth back then.  Back then I just thought that being seen as female was as close as I could get, I was pretty naive about the whole transitioning and transsexuality.  This was back before access to the internet, and even in a big city I could not find out much.  It was easier for me just to exploit my androgyny, and use my frame and long hair to get by. 

Transition wise.  I took a walk around the block after the first appointment with my therapist.  Not really liberating, except the knowledge of the first steps of starting over and making things right. Tell you the truth it was a little boring.  Taking the subway for the first time...I would say was a much bigger deal...because if there is anyplace you will be noticed, it will be on a train. 
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Renae.Lupini

Quote from: Amy T. on May 30, 2007, 03:02:30 PM
Back then I just thought that being seen as female was as close as I could get, I was pretty naive about the whole transitioning and transsexuality.

I had long hair, down to my ass long, when i was younger. My grandmother used to tell me I looked like a girl. all I could think of was, "cool".

I just spent the day on the metro in DC during memorial day and experienced the field trip trifecta from hell. Every stop from Crystal City to le Effant plaza, more damn groups of kids were getting on. Since I was going to shoot photos all day, I had no make-up on, a hat, and sunglasses. I was looking less than glamorous and had no problems at all. It is all about confidence. If you like you know WTF you're doing then people leave you alone. If you look scared or nervous people will prey on that.




Amy, we need to meet up one of these days. Are you going to Pride?


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Keira


Renea,

Sometimes it doesn't matter how confident you are.
Some people are just total crapheads and will
hit people at random (doesn't matter if your TS or not, you could be a GG with a big jaw!!!)

Last week, I just came back from an interview, was very smartly dressed and had
delicate natural makeup, best hair ever; I felt good, had a bounce in my step yet bam
got read and taunted by a group of schoolgirls in my own neighborhood, steps from my house.
Even in the first days of transition when I was wholy unpassable, it didn't happen!!
I sure hope its because they saw me going through transition (because its close to home) and
that's why they noticed me; if not, I don't have a clue at all, maybe they'd had said the same thing
Sharapova (the tennis star) who is 6 foot one and has pretty devellopped muscles !!!!


I'm public transport all the time, probably more than most here since I've got no car
and I live in a dense big city with a very good public transport system that's used to the max.
I'd tell any TS that if they're able to go into Montreal's public metro and buses at rush hour for a
week without anyone having a double take, your probably passable at 99.5%. Having people dozens
of all type for hours in your face, every day, is enerving.

Also Renae, it is if you are pretty, makeup, nice clothes, etc, that you runa bigger risk of somebody catching something because ironically, they may find you attractive and look at you and then, through their observations may see horror!!! that you have a slight adams apple or some other real or imagined incongruety. Mine is not proeminent, but if you are really looking for it, you see it. That there are some GG with that doesn't matter, the attractiveness VS revulsion at the same time makes their brain blow like the robot in lost in space!

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Renae.Lupini

my intent of starting this topic was to see how many people would say that they had a bad experience the first time going out in public. The reason is that I see so many people who take this first step and live through it yet don't move on farther because they are unsure what would happen if they did. we all thought the world was going to swallow itself when we went out the first time. But surprisingly less people gave a damn than we were anticipating.

If we can make through this first initial step and survive, what is stopping us from progressing further down the road? is it our jobs, family, friends, or other societal unsureness? Just as we perceived the world to hate us that first time out we are too quick to have the same perceptions about progressing in the direction of living in our preferred gender roles. It is my opinion that if we use the same logic that we learned from the first time out then worrying about all of the unpredictable variables should be the last thing that keeps from truly being happy in our lives.
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Jillieann Rose

Here is my posting about the first time I went out in public it was called:
Great Day  on: December 20, 2005, 11:53:43 PM 
QuoteI had the most wonderful day, yesterday.
Was looking in the mirror after shaving and got the craziest idea.
So first I put on a little foundation on my face and neck.
Some blush on my cheeks and than I took a pencil and darken my eyebrows.
My eyelashes are already dark and long so I left them alone.
I put on some lipstick and a set of fake nails; my nails are still too short.
After putting a little padding, a white pullover, a pink sweater, my white ladies jeans,  teen shoes, a pair of small gold earrings, my wife's light weight winter coat and a light blue stocking hat I got into the car and headed for the mall. When I got to the mall I grabbed my purse, which I had put my wallet and other things, and walked into. At that moment I almost had a panic attack, but I was so determined to wall around the mall a couple of time no matter what anyone might think. I know how to talk, walk and act like a woman, I grew up with two sisters.
After ten minutes of walking without looking at anyone and my head down, I began to peek at people I was passing. No one seemed to notice me. I got a little braver and began looking at people as I pass them, they would glance at me and than look away just like they always do when I'm dressed as a man. Then my nose started to run. I had forgot to put an tissue in my purse so head for the bathrooms. I knew I couldn't go into the men's so hurried into the woman's and pass a couple of ladies and got into a stall.  Took care of my problem and than I when the bathroom sounded empty went to a mirror to check my makeup. Two women came in looked at me as the passed by and went into a couple of stalls without giving me a second glance.
I was in heaven. 
I realized that I was being accepted as the woman I am. Finally I could be my true self; a woman, in her environment, shopping in a mall.
After that I held my head up, smile at the children waiting for Santa, look everyone in the face and for the next two hours I walked and shopped in the stores.
I checked out the ladies dresses at Sears, shoes at Payless, and some bras and makeup at the Target store.
Not wanting this to end I went to Myers and shopped for a gift for my SO. She loves cloths and jewelry. But I had one small problem. I realized I couldn't use my credit card, my name and ID would be wrong.
Anyway it was a great day and I will do it again. Next time I will have more cash in my purse.
I hope this will encourage someone.

Jillieann
Oh by the way I was out today again as myself.
;D
Jillieann
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Shyfox

Funny story behind my first time out, actually. Sort of a long one, too. I'll abridge it as best I can. I'd been outside in girl's clothes before, but never off my own property, so I don't really count that as "out".

It was the night before my brother's wedding, and I was nervous as hell. My sister and I had planned that the wedding would be my first time out and about in the type of clothing I knew I was meant to wear. I must've been in the bathroom for around three hours, shaving everything and making damn sure there was no facial stubble (I still haven't tried make-up). I shampooed and conditioned my hair about three times over, as in my daily male life, it's pretty heavy and a nightmare to style. I also plucked my eyebrows and checked for nostril hairs (for some reason I've never had any).

I went to bed with a mixture of excitement and dread, sort of like Christmas Eve, only at the same time you're certain something bad is going to happen.

When I woke up the next morning, the house was in a mad rush. I had slept in by about two hours, and no one thought to wake me up. Oh well. I locked myself in the bathroom and nervously set to work. After a quick wake-up shower, I started getting ready. I slipped on my new pink and white top, and straightened my hair. I'm not ready for the whole bra and fake boobs phase yet, and I surely wasn't then. After squeezing into my white dress pants (I'm a size 1, which is apparently something the women in my family envy), I pulled on my long socks and best sneakers. I completed the look with some accessories, including a thin black women's tie, two studded black vinyl wrist bands, and for the reception, my studded collar (I had to get out of the tie eventually, knowing the reception would have food, and I didn't want the tie dipping into it).

To say I was nervous would be an understatement - I was standing in the bathroom, staring at the door, telling myself, "Ok, this is it. This is your chance. If you're ever going to stop hiding behind Alfred for the rest of your life, you're going to have to show Alice to the world someday. That day is today."

When I opened the door, my sister squealed with delight. My mom actually made me model the pants, as they apparently did a rather nice job of framing up my rear. After a too-long Mother/sister/daughter moment full of positive reinforcement and praising my ability to pull the look off, we are finally ready to leave. I down a cup of black coffee before we leave, to calm my nerves and wake me up a little more.

About halfway there, I'm having second thoughts. I mention this to my brother's best man, Dave, who is sitting next to me in the back seat. He smiles, places a hand on my thigh, and leans in close.

"Are you KIDDING me? Look at you! If I was... well... you know... I'd be ALL OVER you!"

He then made a sizzling noise and pulled his hand back quickly, shaking it off.

"You're smokin', Alice. Anyone who says otherwise can get free admission to the gun show!"

You know, that old line about big muscles. Dave's a dork, and I'm glad we're friends.

This was also the first time someone really referred to me by my female name. I was blown away, and he wouldn't stop giggling at how bad I was blushing. A poke-fight ensued thusly. Mind you, this was only a year ago, and we're both in the 23-25 age range.

We get to the church, and there is an OCEAN of people waiting outside. I step out of the car last, and thank heavens that all eyes are not on me. I do, however, wonder why I'm not garnering that much attention. Surely I'm not that passable? I take it as a blessing and walk up to the groom's family group, and idle chat with family I haven't seen in some time passes the time until we enter the church.

The ceremony was plain-clothes, as both of our families don't like to put people out by expecting them to rent a fancy suit or gown or anything. On top of that, we just like being casual. My brother wore his Army ACUs, and my sister-in-law wore a gorgeous wedding gown. They both felt sort of out of place, or so it looked from where I sat.

After the ceremony, we all gathered outside and did the whole yelling in celebration and throwing stuff around thing. Afterwards, I noticed the pastor standing in the doorway of the church. I approached him, and offered my gratitude for such a lovely ceremony. He gave me a bit of a startled look, and then smiled warmly to me, offering his hands. I placed my fingers in his palms, and he held onto them firmly, looking me right in the eye.

"Diversity and honesty are what make life colorful. God will always welcome you in his house, no matter what others may perceive. Don't ever let anyone tell you your smile isn't wonderful."

I didn't know what to say - I was completely taken aback. He let go of my hands, and opened his arms. I gave him a big hug, and fought back happy tears. It was the most unbelievable moment of my life.

I couldn't hold it in, and on the way to the reception, I cried. my mom asked me what was wrong, and I told her what happened. We had a moment, and before long we were there. I went into the bathroom (the men's room... ugh) and straightened myself out. I gave myself a good long look in the mirror, and smiled. I'd only interacted with one stranger today, and it was the greatest feeling in the world. I had to experience it again.

When I stepped back out into the dining hall, my grandmother ran up to me with open arms and shouted, "There she is!". She hugged me tight and we caught up with each other. My mom had apparently told her about my gender situation via email in the past couple of weeks, and she was totally willing and happy to refer to me as my true gender.

It was amazing, but I would find that as the night passed, in some cases it would get a little... awkward.

A dance contest broke out around 8pm, and we all hit the floor in a huge circle. Two or three people would start off, dancing into the circle and taking about a minute to bust some moves. Then they would dance out of the circle, pointing at someone to come in next. Inevitably, I was picked. The song playing at the time was Haddaway's What is Love?. My grandmother, a crazy party animal at 63 years old, entered across from me. We both looked at each other and nodded knowingly, then lifted our hands up and started swinging our hips in place. We slid across the dance floor to one another, and started grinding back-to-back. The crowd was going absolutely NUTS.

The team of Alice and Alice (I took my name from my grandmother, because it'd be easier on my friends to still call me Al, and, as you can see, she's an amazingly awesome woman) finished as runners-up, defeated only by the magic that was my brother Jon and Dave, who started a craze called "the Lawnmower". Pull start, pull start, and kick it, and kick it, and kick it...

I clung to her for most of the night, and we made a pretty good drinking team, playing team quarters and beer pong together.

The awkwardness kicks in right about... now.

From across the room, I hear, "Hey, Alice! Can I get those digits?" My grandmother and I look at each other and shrug, thinking nothing of it. After a few more beers, I feel a hand on my shoulder. I turn around and look up to see a very tall man giving me the strangest look I have ever seen. He then turns around and takes off back to his table. I don't see him again for the rest of the evening.

The night winds down, and by now, I'm so drunk that I don't even remember that I was born male. The party has been pretty much ace aside from the strange encounter earlier. I help clean up, and we all pile into the car to go home after the drunken goodbyes and shallow promises to keep in touch with family I don't even know.

In the car, Dave mentions to me that the guy who shouted at me and then approached me was a friend of his. He thought I was "bangin'" during the dance-off, and was too drunk to notice I was a physical male. This was a little awkward for me, but all in all, I thought it was sort of a compliment, and we all agreed it was hilarious. I guess when he saw me really up-close, he must've noticed and was really embarrassed.

I slept VERY well that night. Here's a picture of a drunken Alice as captured by my sister's god-awful webcam:

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LostInTime

Halloween when I was 20. Went to work (in retail) all decked out with a horrible wig. Shaved my legs, wore pantyhose, had an ankle bracelet, mini skirt, wide belt, etc. Makeup was horrendous and I weighed near 250 some pounds. Yet, people I thought I was a woman. One of the mall security guys even thought I had a nice set of legs and butt. Saying hello to him in a deep male voice (I forced it to go deep, my normal speaking range was nowhere near it) and watching his eyes go wide was pretty funny. Many customers had no idea.

Later that night I went to a party dressed in the same outfit and with my gf who dressed as Charlie Chaplin. Some drunk guy tried dancing with me and I won the prize for best dressed. Fun night, even if I did look horrible.

The only other Halloween night was years later. Better wig this time and falsies that were way too big (my chest has always been naturally fleshy and I did not realise how much the things would stick out). Had a good time, even though I was really nervous. I was out as TS at that time but not FT yet.

I rarely dressed before going fulltime so my first time out with no one else was actualy the first day I went fulltime. I worked that day as a guy and went out that night as me. :)
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