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Started by brayden4, September 06, 2013, 10:58:34 AM

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brayden4

After I'm completely done with transition and college I would really like to be a high school science teacher. I plan on being as stealth as possible because after all I am a man and there isn't any reason I would want to tell someone how I came out of the womb anyway. But I know some people like to be out as a transguy and I was wondering if any of you are teachers (of any grade) and how you handle it?

Also if you are stealth and a teacher as well, how do you stay stealth, does anyone question you and if they did how would you handle it?

I've lived in a small oklahoma town my entire life and now have moved to a big city in florida, I plan on moving back to oklahoma to a small town to settle down in and start my career (small town away from people who knew me before) and I am just little concerned about safety if anyone were to find out because I know some parents don't want their kids being taught by anyone of the LGBT community.

Any insight is appreciated


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spacerace

I don't want to doubt the capacity of people to be understanding - especially in the years to come. Trans acceptance may be embraced by many in the future - but I think small town Oklahoma may be one of the last places it happens.

Still, you should do what you want - but maybe consider a larger area closer to Oklahoma City or something if you really want to be in Oklahoma.

I would have been more positive about the prospects of what would it happen if parents found out prior to the last few weeks - but the Manning stuff has really brought a lot of trans hate out into the open from conservative media - and as I am sure you are well aware, Oklahoma is really, really a red state. 

If you are outed, people will be pissed and the school will hear about it. You may find yourself constantly worrying about that happening, so you will have to weigh that against how much you want to go back there.

Sorry to not be reassuring about this.
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brayden4

I do plan on being closer to OKC because it is pretty far away from my hometown. Maybe if I live in a small town outside of the city I might be able to get a job in the city rather than working in a small town school. My cousin is openly gay and he teaches Pre-K in a really small town so I'm hoping if anything were to come up that it wouldn't be so bad because everyone seems to embrace him as a teacher. I guess I won't know until it happens, I'm just a little hesitant thinking if something happens and I'm outed then how could this effect the family I'm trying to start.


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randomroads

I know we have some teachers here, and I'm sure they'll see this soon. I just wanted to say that I admire you for wanting to work with children and shape them in a very noble career - science teacher. Our nation is severely lacking in mathematics and science and we need more people who enjoy showing kids how fun and cool it really is.
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AdamMLP

I've only met her once, but one of my trainers at the apprenticeship I'm starting tomorrow is a trans woman.  It's not the same, as there's people there from 17 to maybe one or two in their 30s, and in the UK which seems to be more accepting than in religious parts of the states, but it's a teaching role nonetheless.

Anyway, she passes, not enough to stop me scrutinising her because I thought there might have been a chance she was trans, but enough for me not to find anything during my scrutinising that would make me think that I wasn't just being crazy.  I'd dismissed it as me being a lunatic, and then she told us that she was trans.  There was a crowd of people, both parents, partners and apprentices, and there wasn't a murmur.  She said that it had been one of the hardest things she'd ever done in her life, and that it worried her she wouldn't be able to carry on doing her job, but that all of her students in previous years had been brilliant about it.

It's not impossible, although high-school is probably one of the harder ages to teach.  I considered teaching high-school history for a long while, but I don't particularly like kids, and although I'm enthusiastic about the subject and teach anyone who brings a topic I know about up, there were to many uncertainties about going down that route.  Being trans wasn't one of them though, simply because I'm fairly sure I could be stealth by that point.  I don't think that anyone would notice enough to question you about it, especially not to your face, unless there was already a rumour going around that there was a trans teacher/you were trans.

Being open about it is more difficult, especially if there are likely to be problems with the parents, and you've not already built up a good track record which can override that.  And that age range is probably the hardest time to be unusual.
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DriftingCrow

Quote from: AlexanderC on September 06, 2013, 05:53:18 PM
I've only met her once, but one of my trainers at the apprenticeship I'm starting tomorrow is a trans woman.  It's not the same, as there's people there from 17 to maybe one or two in their 30s, and in the UK which seems to be more accepting than in religious parts of the states, but it's a teaching role nonetheless.

Wow Alex, this makes me happy, I know being trans at work was something you were worried about. Hopefully, she can help mentor you and remain a lifelong ally.  :)
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Arch

I'm a college prof, but that's a whole different world. We do have some teachers on the site, but I'm not sure how many are still active. Poke around and see what you find.
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brayden4

Thank you guys for all of your input, it is very much appreciated!!


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AdamMLP

Quote from: LearnedHand on September 06, 2013, 05:58:05 PM
Wow Alex, this makes me happy, I know being trans at work was something you were worried about. Hopefully, she can help mentor you and remain a lifelong ally.  :)

I'm going to pretend to be female for the first year just for the sake of having to share a room, but I may come out to her, just because she seems the sort of person I would get on with even if she wasn't trans.  I'll be able to judge other people's opinions on trans people from how they react to her as well, in case something does make me come out.

I'll keep people posted on how people take to her if anyone's interested, I'm going down there tomorrow morning, not sure when the first time we'll have her will be.  For me it's probably going to be fairly often, although I don't know yet.
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Arch

This blog might help--at the very least, you can PM her and see if she has any insights for you. https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,405.0.html
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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aleon515

Quote from: Arch on September 06, 2013, 06:25:14 PM
This blog might help--at the very least, you can PM her and see if she has any insights for you. https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,405.0.html

I think she'd be pretty helpful. Actually she is having a pretty good experience. I think it's harder to go that way too.

You can be stealth in your position. But you can't be *entirely* stealth as a teacher. I am a retired teacher. There is a lot of bureaucratic stuff and clearances. You will have to do fingerprints and that sort of thing. I am guessing you will be asked previous names and so on. Most big city school districts have policies about that. And I think are so big that what goes on at HR stays pretty much at HR. So once you get thru it you should be ok at the individual school level.

I know of another teacher (don't think he is on here) that is FTM. He also transitioned like Suzi did. I think it would definitely be harder this way than starting off your career.



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Arch

Quote from: aleon515 on September 06, 2013, 10:49:53 PM
I think she'd be pretty helpful. Actually she is having a pretty good experience. I think it's harder to go that way too.

You can be stealth in your position. But you can't be *entirely* stealth as a teacher. I am a retired teacher. There is a lot of bureaucratic stuff and clearances. You will have to do fingerprints and that sort of thing. I am guessing you will be asked previous names and so on. Most big city school districts have policies about that. And I think are so big that what goes on at HR stays pretty much at HR. So once you get thru it you should be ok at the individual school level.

I teach at a community college, part of the K-14 system. My background check was conducted through a company not affiliated with the college district, so my privacy was maintained. Do public K-12 schools do the same thing?

I don't remember whether I was asked about prior names on my college job app, but that information stays with HR. And as someone pointed out to me a while back, you can often find ways to make the old name less obtrusive, such as using first and middle initials (if they are different from your current initials) or just a last name (if you changed your last name).

Still, this might not apply to K-12.
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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