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Survival in the rough part of town? A Primer of sorts...

Started by SonadoraXVX, December 27, 2012, 07:35:59 PM

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Quote from: Alainaluvsu on December 27, 2012, 08:30:06 PM
IDK what it's like everywhere else, but in the rough parts of New Orleans ...

Don't call the cops. Ever. People will figure out it was you, and they have NO problems murdering you just because you called on a noise violation. I'm not exaggerating even a little, either.

People are generally nice. But obviously don't EVER walk around. Ride a bike. Don't wait for the bus either. Follow the bus route you're going on with your bike.

If you see something bad... get out of there IMMEDIATELY and do NOT make eye contact. People get murdered here on main streets in broad daylight so there's a (small) chance you will see somebody get killed here. If they see you're a witness and know you saw something that can make them go to prison, they will follow you back to your place.

Drive a cheap car. People see a nice car as a target. In fact do that if you visit here. Don't bring your Porche down here and park it in the quarter... people will bust your window out or even steal a tow truck and steal your car (it happens). If you live in the ghetto that shouldn't even be needed to be said though.

Smile, but be short with people. If you walk past them they'll either feel disrespected or that you're afraid. Either way, makes you a target.

Keep a gun in your house and take it to your car. If people see you have a gun, they won't mess with you.

Wow it's returned to the jungle :( . Why don't you head north?
;) :D
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Alainaluvsu

Have you ever been to New Orleans? I love it here! Most people that like it here end up returning when they get sick of it anyways. There's a loveability to this city. I know people that have been robbed and mugged 3+ times that can't stay away.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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SonadoraXVX

Ok, to not start a new thread, got done on reading Rory Miller's excellent book called, "Facing Violence". Its like no other book on what precipitates violence and what types of violence men and women will encounter. I strongly suggest anybody who wants to understand "real violence" and how to avoid it, get it. Basically he explains how violence starts.

Men usually encounter social violence, women usually encounter asocial violence.

Social violence is when there is an audience to commit an audience, usually a MD, GMD, SSS, EBD, or a hybrid/combo of it.
Asocial violence is usually when there is no audience, no witnesses and happens in a short timespan, predator attacks.

The Monkey dance usually starts when two males encounter each other and one feels disrespected because of
1. Rule enforcement, or broke the rules.
2. Hierarchical rivalry, or feeling trumped by a underling.
3. Territorial issues, or coming into my territory.
See this often in male prisons, but aso happens in the corporate world or the streets, but differently. The Monkey Dance can also be started due to a combination of these above factors.

Group Monkey Dance is when a group of men commits violence due to the three broken rules above, also see this often in prisons, but also happens in regular life, be it the corporate world or the streets.

SSS or Status Seeking Show is when a lower member of a group shows  other higher ranking members of a group, how tough he is by committing a violent act, happens alot in prisons, but can also be seen in the corporate world or streets.

EBD or Educational Beat Down, when one higher ranking member teaches a lower ranking member of a wrong done, can be as simple as a headsmack by a father to a son for doing or saying something wrong, or it could be a prison/street.corporate fight by a younger member of a gang/group and a older/senior member of a group being taught a lesson.

Usually men don't like to walk away from fights, especially if women are close by, men think it means they are cowards, but women think its the right think to do, its taught to them not to walk away by the media and peer/social groups and can even be hardwired, as in protecting the flock.

Asocial violence can be committed to women and men but usually happens to women more often, due to asocial violence is committed by predators, such as serial killers, serial rapists, serial murderers or a combo/hybrid of the formers.

Two kinds of predators.

Resource predator wants just your monkey, car, jewelry or something of value, and then will leave with no harm done to you, usually a mugger, thief, theft for money or to feed a habit, or drug habit or other dire neccesity, can even be a father/mother stealing to feed their children/child.

Process predator commit the act of violence for just the sake of the act, it means you are the target and there is no negotiation for it or you.

Predators in general need privacy and time to committ the act, therefore you offer no privacy or time, meaning you stick to large social groups or gatherings and you offer no time to commit the crime, you harden the target or you make it apparent that for you to be taken down, its going to cost alot of effort on his part, meaning taking lots of time. Process predators you fight for your life, period. Resource predators you give your valuables, to survive.

Two basic types of tactics used by the predators,
1. Charm blitz, meaning they will use their social skills or charm to then segregate you and use the blitz attack, ala Ted Bundy.
2. Attack blitz, meaning they will use surprise, overwhelming force and violence to submit you.

Process predators are chameleons, or sociopaths, they can be anybody, since they feel no remorse for their crimes, they can be doctors, lawyers, engineers, janitors, dads, sons, you'd never suspect them. Process  predators can also be women, ala Aileen Wournors, but exceedingly rare, per evidence so far.

Lucia,
My other 2 cents.
To know thyself is to be blessed, but to know others is to prevent supreme headaches
Sun Tzu said it best, "To know thyself is half the battle won, but to know yourself and the enemy, is to win 100% of the battles".



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xchristine

Wow
In Vancouver I was free to do what ever where ever and what ever
Time I wanted...even totally girlie mode ..

You all live in hell

There is a better way than being scared of everyone
And carrying a gun
But I'm sure since you grew up in it.  You think it's normal
It's not

Not the world I live in..and I went tj the toughest bars ..
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SonadoraXVX

Actually its a lot more common then you think, the rough parts of town. Figure Chicago has the highest per capital homicide/drive-bys in the nation. Oakland is not too far behind, L.A., ranks pretty high up, Detroit somewhere too, D.C., NOLA, Northern New Jersey, Fresno, CA,  Houston there in there too, lists goes on and on. The spread of violence such as gangbangers is everywhere, even in my small town where I'm from, Brownsville, Texas/Matamoros Tamaulipas, has seen an epidemic of violence, in the U.S. side though, and not because of narcotraffikers either. Canada has it share of knuckleheads I hear, in Montreal, Toronto, I know Seattle has it bad areas.

Lets not even go into the 3rd world countries, like Mexico?, Central/South America/Asia/Africa, Middle East.

Lucia, my two cents, just trying to educate my sisters and brothers how to stay safe :police:
P.S. Really?
To know thyself is to be blessed, but to know others is to prevent supreme headaches
Sun Tzu said it best, "To know thyself is half the battle won, but to know yourself and the enemy, is to win 100% of the battles".



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Lorri Kat

xchristine you have the right to believe as you do..  Understand though that not everywhere is the same. Conversely to many who have posted I lived,worked in a very remote area with lots of transiant traffic and wildlife(bears, Algonquin wolves, also the hybrid genus of coyotes which were a cross between Eastern coyotes and Algonquin wolves,Mountain lions and moose( a pissed off moose will make anyone mess their panties!), I walked to and from my store each day and night(100 yards).. You were on your own..   as per dealing with humans that got stupid there was no cell service in the area and if you called 911 from a hard line for law enforcement it would be anywhere from a half hour,at best, to an hour or more before they could get to this part of the county for a real emergency.. You were on you own.   No one else was going to protect you so guns were not optional but a required deterrent and safty measure.  :)
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V M

@ Lorri Kat  :)  I live up in the N.W. now and sometimes we get the occasional wild animal straying into town  :)  I'm not sure what happens, maybe they make a wrong turn at Yellowstone park? But we have a pretty good response team that captures the creatures and sets them back out to the wild

The closest I've seen has been a big cat (Cougar? Mtn lion? I don't remember) in the back yard area of my apt.s and I nearly got run over by a Moose on my way to the store  :laugh:

A big change from the wild animals (people) in the various cities I've lived in  :)
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

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- V M
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Lorri Kat

Quote from: V M on July 07, 2013, 09:39:28 PM
@ Lorri Kat  :)  I live up in the N.W. now and sometimes we get the occasional wild animal straying into town  :)  I'm not sure what happens, maybe they make a wrong turn at Yellowstone park? But we have a pretty good response team that captures the creatures and sets them back out to the wild

The closest I've seen has been a big cat (Cougar? Mtn lion? I don't remember) in the back yard area of my apt.s and I nearly got run over by a Moose on my way to the store  :laugh:

A big change from the wild animals (people) in the various cities I've lived in  :)


I lived "In the Wild"  lol

When I first moved to WNY from living inside the 'blue line' in the ADK  people asked what I liked most about the area,WNY.  I'd tell them " I liked not having to sit in the back yard with a rifle while the kids play so they don't get eaten by something" and "I didn't miss walking to work past a treeline with multiple sets of glowing eyes" .. they'd laugh thinking I was joking..  but I wasen't, I was dead serious!.    When the deer and turkys hauled bum away or wern't around you knew the things with fangs were.   sorry for the bit of a thread hy-jack..   situational awareness applies to both two and four legged animals.. as well as the ones that slither..  ewwwww...
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xchristine

At Lori Kat. .
I live up north...and work extreme isolated camps...
I'm used to bears ..I've had to run ..stare them down

Some places are soo isolate you never leave with ouy a radio
Bear spray avalanche beacon bear bangers AND another one
Person...and you have to log your trip when you lwage...and
Return time...and where you are going. ..

I also have lived in Vancouver downtown eastside west side ..
Yadayada...I'm a north west coast Indian...
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