Does the term "->-bleeped-<-" bother you?

[Madison_dawn]

->-bleeped-<- is awful unless used in context with a car, I mean seriously think about it, Transexual doesnt bother me, but even more offending is the terms "->-bleeped-<-" and "Chick with a Dick" ...reason I stoped talking to my coworkers.

[luna]

... more offending is the terms "->-bleeped-<-" and "Chick with a Dick" ...reason I stoped talking to my coworkers.

I agree with this part of your statement. "->-bleeped-<-" to me is just seems like a shortening of transgender or transsexual. If we're going to use words like "transgender" and "transsexual" people are going to shorten it to something, that's just how people are. People don't say "homosexual" very often, too many syllables... they say "gay" instead. Unless we come up with a short term of our own it just seems like it really does come down to context. Someone could call me "->-bleeped-<-" or "transsexual" or "gay" in a mean or dehumanizing way and I'd get offended, even though I technically am on all three counts.

At any rate, ->-bleeped-<- is far less offensive than the two above, and I can think of a few other terms that outclass "->-bleeped-<-" in offensiveness.

[V M]

Personally I don't care for the term, but as mentioned it somewhat depends on who is using the term and the context in which it is being used

[jamielikesyou]

As others say, context is key. On a dating site, someone referring to you as ->-bleeped-<- is going to be at best, ignorant and  ill-equipped to deal with some of the issues relevant to any relationship which may develop. More likely someone using it shows a lack of sensitivity, outward transphobia or possibly worse, fetishization. Amongst peers, well, I guess the threat level reduces but I still won't use it even though others may appropriate it (like ->-bleeped-<-girl115 on Youtube for example.)

If it carries offence to others I'm not inclined to use it.

[Lorri Kat]

I'm not fond of it but it's not a claws out  MerrrRRROOOWW  HisssssSSSSS!! thing to me....    It is more about the context that it's used in, which seems to be what most here state, as well as the person saying it.    I personaly won't use it or 'Trans' even and prefer to shorten things to 'TG', 'TS', ect.  I take it as a red flag for ignorance mostly unless its a bunch of us out and joking around where its kinda meant as a face palm or D'oh for something someone did or said but I could count the number of times I've heard it used on one hand still with fingers to spare. Which comes back full circle to context and who is using it.   There are far worse words used as was mentioned by a couple people.

[mintra]

It doesn't bother me. We were walking along gay area in Chicago (Roscoe Ave) and I heard a gay man on the street talked about us using the word. It sounds kinda endearing in a funny way 

[NJade]

Yes. Especially when combined with K*ke.  As for the C word, the first thing my brother said to me after congratulating me on my surgery was that I was a total effing c**t. Then we both laughed.

But ->-bleeped-<- is a pejorative, plain and simple. As bad as any other hate word meant to dehumanize a specific group of people. We can attempt to own it as every Othered group owns their hate words, but others should be discouraged.

N.J.

[PHXGiRL]

Think this is one of those things where it depends on the person. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer. Like if I'm joking around with my girlfriends i'll drop the T word but anywhere else its like calling me a F*g, Fa**ot, or using the N word. I prefer to be called a woman i guess any other term is insulting to me.

[Jen-Jen]

The context of how it is used is very important! I dont like to be addressed as a ->-bleeped-<- or transvestite  myself, but my transgirlfriends and I have used "->-bleeped-<-"  while joking around with each other.  I usually try to educate people on it and explain it is a derogatory term though.

I agree with this part of your statement. "->-bleeped-<-" to me is just seems like a shortening of transgender or transsexual. If we're going to use words like "transgender" and "transsexual" people are going to shorten it to something

I prefer it shortened to just "Trans"

[SarahDoll1987]

Like a lot of others have said, to me it all depends on context. If someone is a good friend of mine then I don't mind it if it's just said in a joking way.. If someone I didn't know well called me a ->-bleeped-<- though It probably would bother me..

[anya921]

Hate it, whatever the context. Just hate it.   

[Henna]

I can take the word ->-bleeped-<- coming from a mouth of another TS and sometimes we do joke about it, which I think from an outside can seem pretty strange, but I feel that it is quite healthy to laugh at yourself, no matter that being a TS is far from a laughable issue. Still, laughing with other TS, is kind of therapeutic for me.

But I can't take the word ->-bleeped-<- coming out from a mouth of anybody else. That just feels extremely bad. Trans, t, ts or just a woman please, are ok to me.

[Sammy]

At least "->-bleeped-<-" is better than "->-bleeped-<-"...

[Karla]

I don't approve of labelling people... at all.  It is just wrong.  Our culture starts labelling children when they are very small, turning behaviour into a name and sticking the child with the label.  It never stops as the child grows up.

Bottom line, i respect anya's wishes, even if someday (hope i live to see it) ->-bleeped-<- becomes a pride word.

There's an element of eroticising us that i have not gotten my mind around yet.  Too busy for that analysis yet.  As Sammy said, there are worse words, like '->-bleeped-<-'.  That one makes my skin crawl.

Yesterday i took a long bubble bath that i had earned after a couple of hours chopping & hauling wood, then cleaning the kitchen.  Brought a book with me, it was delicious.  My wife's snide comment later was 'looks like you just can't do without your daily dressing up'.  In other words, she's decided i'm a transvestite... hasn't said it yet, but it fits with other cruel and abusive comments that i tolerate daily to keep the peace.

You've asked a good question.  Deserves one good answer... today too many answers.

Hate it, whatever the context. Just hate it.   

[Sammy]

There's an element of eroticising us that i have not gotten my mind around yet.  Too busy for that analysis yet.

Better dont bother .  Everything which exists can be basically eroticised - mostly by representatives of our beloved birth assigned gender. It has been speculated that quite a high percentage of men have homosexual fantasies and some of them wish to fulfill them. But by doing so they automatically label themselves as gay which infringes upon their masculinity. So, they search for pre-op transwomen because "that would not count". This ignorance would be even funny, if it did not hurt that much - because majority of them do not perceive us as female, though we are not males for them either (males would turn them gay, remember?). I once started to read about this, because when I registered at our local LGBT forum to find other TG/TS, I immediately started to get a lot of unwanted attention from hetero/gay/bi males, despite the fact that I openly stated in my profile what I am and what I am not looking for.

[Hideyoshi]

Doesn't bother me.  I don't offend easily.  I'd rather let it roll off my back.

However, if I was in public and people started saying that to me and making fun of me I'd probably run away and cry

[muuu]

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[Hideyoshi]

I don't see how it'd be approriate in any situation to use "->-bleeped-<-"..
Could you give an example of when you think it is ok to use ->-bleeped-<-? Even among friends it's still a bit weird, because I really don't see why you'd need to use that word.

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[Sarah Louise]

I see little need for the word in "polite" society.  Its slang, and slang is something I seldom if ever use.  Of course I used slang at one time of my life, but not anymore.

[Shantel]

I don't see how it'd be approriate in any situation to use "->-bleeped-<-"... to me it just sounds really rude. It's like calling a fat person a "fatty" and then continue calling them a "fatty" even after they've lost weight, because they were fat at some point.
Could you give an example of when you think it is ok to use ->-bleeped-<-? Even among friends it's still a bit weird, because I really don't see why you'd need to use that word.

We've done it as a group of mostly post-op trans women who don't take everything seriously or as a personal affront and have a sense of humor. On the other hand if it came from any other source it would be offensive.