"Cycling hormones " what does that mean?

[MyAlias]

I have heard people talking about cycling there hormones, to prevent losing erectile function. Does this work? How do you cycle them? private message me if you like. Thank you all for the help. I am asking this question with full seriousness, I don't have bottom dysphoria.

[Kelly-087]

I don't know how it works and I can't advise. And since it's a touchy subject here, I wouldn't if I did know.

I do know that some trans porn stars do this to maintain their erections.

[Joanna Dark]

The theory behind cycling hormones is that it will replicate a cis female's menstrual cycle and it is supposed to create faster development. However, natal females don't completely stop producing hormones for a week a month. You're supposed to do three weeks on and one week off. I wouldn't try it. If you're looking to keep erectile function while on HRT the only thing you can only really do is take a low dose of spiro and E.  Over time, this may hurt erectile function while not creating optimal development. If you cycle, I guess it could cause you to keep functioning. Not sure. It seems dangerous.

[Kelly-087]

What she's asking about is how to keep erectile function. Some transgirls (especially porn stars) cycle their drugs so that they keep enough of an ability to have an erection.

I'm not sure how they do it and get results, but Ive never really looked into it that much.

[Joanna Dark]

The best way to find out is probably to find a trangirl porn star, FB her, and then ask! 

[kelly_aus]

It may not be needed. After almost 2 years of regular hormone usage, I have no erectile dysfunction - and never have. When I want it to, it works. Not quite as big or firm as it was before, but perfectly functional.

[Kelly-087]

I haven't been on them as long as you other Kelly.

But yeah I don't have too many problems there either.

And I really don't reccomend hormone cycling without medical advice first. I do have a basic idea of how its done and it could be potentially dangerous in the short term scheme of things.

[JennX]

Cycling refers to changing your dosages of E at different times of the month to match the natural cycle of a cis-female.

As far as erections go... I had 3 years of HRT with E & Spiro, and was always able to get and maintain a solid erection... right up until the day I had my SRS. Now it's kinda difficult. LOL! 

Maybe I should've looked in to some porn work? Joke.

[Hideyoshi]

Been on finasteride for eight months and estrogen for seven, still get boners perfectly fine. Affects everybody differently i guess

[XchristineX]

I'm on Spiro estrogen and medroxyprogesterone

I rarely get it active...a d when it does I try to take advantage
Of it lol ...but after ten mins I'm like wtf....won't finish...
I'll have to get grs to orgasm again...

[Joanna Dark]

Been on finasteride for eight months and estrogen for seven, still get boners perfectly fine. Affects everybody differently i guess

Have you considered going on spiro. I heard that finesteride isn't very effective as an AA. That's what my endo said. I asked about it. She said you hair is perfect so there is no need as it only blocks DHT and promotes hair growth and you'll do great with just spiro and estrofem. Just a suggestion. You're doing quite well though so there is the whole if ain't broke don't fix it thing. I've been obsessed with anti-androgen recently lol

[Tessa James]

MyAlias,

Like our other respondents I have OK erections and function on Spiro and Estradiol and especially enjoy the sensation of calm vs. the old pushy urgency I attribute partly to testosterone.  We have also heard from TG/TS women who utilize prescription viagra with success.  My endo folks warned against concurrent use of testosterone or skipping doses to do the cycling thing.  It is a journey of self discovery for sure!

Tessa James

[Kelly-087]

I think part of maintaining that ability to have an erection  is trying.

Most of the people Ive seen commenting that cant tend to be severely bottom dysphoric. Not all of us are, nothing wrong with that especially if our partners/sexuallity allows it.

Ive def seen a decrease in it. It goes away when I want it too and and comes back when I want it to, lol.

Viagra could be a bad idea without doctor consult as typical t-blockers lower blood pressure, and so does viagra. It wouldnt be as bad as nitroglycerin and viagra, but still a problematic or fatal combination if you have the right conditions.

[XchristineX]

What is bottom dysphpric?
Because I can't get it up on HRT

[Catherine Sarah]

In the words of my very experienced Endo, the only reason a MtF would want/need to cycle hormones is if they wanted to fall pregnant. Start and end of conversation.

There are absolutely NO benefits whatsoever for a MtF cycling hormones. If anything, optimum results are achieved by an MtF from a consistent and persistent supply of HT.

"Bottom dysphoric" refers to a dislike (in its varying stages) to one's current appendages in the region between one's upper legs and buttocks. It has nothing to do with functionality of same.

I hope this has clarified some misinformation.

Huggs
Catherine

[JennX]

There are absolutely NO benefits whatsoever for a MtF cycling hormones. If anything, optimum results are achieved by an MtF from a consistent and persistent supply of HT.

Huggs
Catherine

This is right on the money. You want to maintain a constant and equal level of E over time. Without any peaks or valleys in the administration, if possible. There is no physiological reason a MTF would want to cycle Estrogen, because in actually it would be counter-productive

[Kelly-087]

It isn't the Estrogen that's cycled.

It's the blockers. Which is why it can become really dangerous.

[XchristineX]

An erection is dependant on testosterone and mostl likeky
Psychological conditions to enjoy it

And Spiro wipes out testosterone pretty good.

[kelly_aus]

An erection is dependant on testosterone and mostl likeky
Psychological conditions to enjoy it

And Spiro wipes out testosterone pretty good.

I have very low, almost non-existent T levels and I'm still quite functional..

[Joanna Dark]

All this talk of sexual function makes me wonder if my sex life post-SRS (three years from now) will be as satisfying and profligate as it was pre-HRT. The reason I worry about sexual functioning now is because I don't want the tissue to shrink and then require some sort of graft. And I highly doubt I will find anyone who wants to have sex with me anytime soon given I'm in some sort of in-between state physically. Anyhoo, here's a large study on Sex after SRS: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2009.01370.x/abstract;jsessionid=6299985F7C227A77E77DA54FACEDA56F.d04t04

You will be required to pay a small fee for the full article and I'd do it but I'm quite poor right now. Anyone have LexisNexis? The study is quite new as well. It's from 2009. Most recentish studies have been done by everyone's favorite researcher, Anne Lawrence. But not this one.