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Started by Kathryn, April 18, 2013, 03:26:43 PM

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Kathryn

What are some different ways and best ways to make your boobs grow? I am a pre-op right now... haven't started HRTs yet but I am already nearly a B also My body is average weight...
When is the best time to start working on my boobs, is it best to Wait till I start hormones? I know I don't want to get Implants if I can help it... :/
any tips or whatever would help. Thanks :3
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Sarah Louise

The best way is to see a therapist, get a letter for hormone treatment, then see a doctor for a prescription.
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Hideyoshi

Don't get implants before HRT.  If you do, breast tissue may grow around the implant which makes them appear malformed.

At least, so I have read.
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Jamie D

I recall there is a topic about breast massage.  I believe Michelle666 posted in it.

Edit: found it

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,88460.msg826363.html#msg826363
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XchristineX

Breast massage good...
And easy to get from boys
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Kathryn

Quote from: Jamie D on April 18, 2013, 05:22:26 PM
I recall there is a topic about breast massage.  I believe Michelle666 posted in it.

Edit: found it

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,88460.msg826363.html#msg826363


<3 Thanks Bunches I Will try this :D <3
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Rena-san

The only thing that is going to make breasts grow is estrogen. And not fake plant estrogen you get by eating foods or taking natural supplements. Real estrogen produced not in an ovary :( but a lab and packaged in a pill--or whatever--just for you as it should say on the Rx you get from your doctor.

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SarahDoll1987

I've been on hormones for almost 3 years now and still got hardly anything... I think it's just the luck of the draw
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XchristineX

I'm pretty convinced a lot of girls aren't doing it right....

Four months and I'm into an A....

But I do premarin Spiro AND medroxyprogesterone
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Jamie D

Premarin?  You are just asking for a thrombosis.  You should be taking an 81 mg aspirin every day if you have been prescribed that medication.
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XchristineX

Thrombosis what is this?
And how would aspirin be as effective?
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XchristineX

Quote from: XchristineX on April 19, 2013, 09:06:42 AM
Thrombosis what is this?
And how would aspirin be as effective?

Correction...should be taking an aspirin...why is that? Clotting faxtor?
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Ms. OBrien CVT

Premarin can cause blood clot (DVT).  Low dose aspirin helps to thin the blood preventing clots.  Talk to your doctor about switching to Estradiol and if they want you on a low dose aspirin.

  
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~RoadToTrista~

Quote from: Hideyoshi on April 18, 2013, 04:14:36 PM
Don't get implants before HRT.  If you do, breast tissue may grow around the implant which makes them appear malformed.

At least, so I have read.

You can find pictures of them on the internet. It looks gross.
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XchristineX

Quote from: Ms. OBrien CVT on April 19, 2013, 09:17:44 AM
Premarin can cause blood clot (DVT).  Low dose aspirin helps to thin the blood preventing clots.  Talk to your doctor about switching to Estradiol and if they want you on a low dose aspirin.

Yes I've heard about clotting factors....I don't smoke am very active..
Although it would be nice. To get on all once a week liquid injections
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Jamie D

For the benefit of christine, I am copying over this post, in hopes that she reads it:

Quote from: chrishoney on March 16, 2013, 08:08:23 PM
It's not just a matter of some drugs work for some people and some don't. You need to research what you are being advised to take for HRT and question your physician when they recommend an old, out dated treatment.

Premarin has virtually no bioidentical estrogens. Premarin is 50% estrone sulfate, 25% equilin, 15% eqilenin. The rest consists of numerous metabolites, some very biologically active. There may be trace amounts of hormones other than estrogens. Thus Premarin is a very complex blend of hormones (http://www.project-aware.org/Managing/Hrt/PremarinFacts_Opinion.shtml). In fact, Premarin contains so many estrogen analogues the FDA has deemed it impossible to identify the active ingredient to use as a benchmark when evaluating 'generic' formulations of Premarin (http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/PostmarketDrugSafetyInformationforPatientsandProviders/DrugSafetyInformationforHeathcareProfessionals/PublicHealthAdvisories/ucm169045.htm).

Because estrone is such a weak form of estrogen, Premarin must be given at much higher doses than bioidentical estradiol to achieve adequate feminization in TS women. Premarin is 50% estrone sulfate, and estrone is weaker by far than estradiol in its ability to stimulate breast tissue. Significantly higher doses also means significantly higher risk of adverse side effects, including death. Premarin was the form of estrogen used in the longitudinal study of post menopausal women in the US that was halted prematurely because study subjects taking it were developing severe health problems as a result, including many more deaths when compared to the placebo group (just google WHI or for a detailed description of the study and why it was halted see http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/whi/estro_pro.htm). Remember, the doses these women were taking are pretty dang low compared to what a TS woman requires.

Following the WHI debacle, Wyeth, the manufacturer of Premarin has managed to convince the medical establishment that the problems with premarin, in particular with conjugated estrogens, were the same for all forms of estrogen including bioidentical estradiol. This simply is not true (http://www.smart-publications.com/articles/dont-let-your-doctor-give-you-horse-urine-for-menopause).

Unfortunately, the evidence in the literature is contradictory as to the effectiveness of Premarin compared to estradiol, but realize ALL of these studies were done on genetic females with the intent of relieving menopause symptoms. Nevertheless, if genetic females were sustaining such severe side effects on the relatively low doses required to relieve menopause symptoms, what can TS women expect on the much higher doses required for feminization, and for much longer periods of time?

When Premarin was first developed, big pharma did NOT have ability to create other forms of estrogen in the laboratory. It was the best they could do at the time. Now that we have the ability to synthesize bio-identical estradiol, and any other estrogen for that matter, why accept and use a more dangerous medication?

It's your choice of course to take what you wish, but I choose not to be big pharma's guinea pig to see what happens from long-term Premarin usage.
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Joanna Dark

Great info Jamie! As for the relative safety of estrogen and potency I think pellets go first, then injections, then transdermal and then 17b estrogens, like estrofem. Premarin would be last. I know one girl who took it and had all sorts of side effects and luckily switched to estrofem. But with injections you don't get much consistency unlike sublingual b17s and transdermals don't work as well cause of their ability to stick. I think injections and pellets are good especially for those with liver problems. But I heard that sublingual b17s don't effect the liver much at all either and are just as consistent as pellets. Most can't afford pellets however, and they are prob are a tad better since of the steady dose and the fact you don't have to take a pill twice a day and you avoid all liver problems, which would be good for trans women who may have a bad alcohol history from their GID. I think ethinyl estradiol is actually the one that produces fastest results but also causes DVT big time.

I just hope and soon that everyone who has GID can get access to HRT regardless of health problems. But if you want something bad enough you'll work 16 hour days if necessary. I don't have to work that much but if I had to I would. I read people with AIDS are a lot to transition so I maybe we are already there lol
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XchristineX

Yes...i have become to start questioning premarin use as its not
As common as it used to be when I was a late teen...

What is a good estradiol to switch to?
Injection or pill?
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Mohini

I concur with Hippolover25: The only thing that makes for breast growth is the estrogen. I've done self breast massage, and the only scientific studies I've seen with that, is that it really just stimulates the breasts, and with stimulation they enlarge only temporarily.

I swear, the whole 'breast massage for growth' was probably contrived by some heterosexual males for the sincere pleasure of 'helping' with the process (my boyfriend included! XD)!  :rolleyes:
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