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Why don't trans people help other trans people?

Started by Rabbit, April 08, 2013, 05:14:30 PM

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Joanna Dark

I liken it to the movie GATTACA where Ethan Hawke jumps thru every hope there is in order to fly to Titan (The largest moon of Saturn and the most likely place for life to exist outside Earth). Anyhoo, once he escaped his past he didn't go around helping others. To do so, would out himself and destroy his dream. A great book to read is Half-life by Shelley Jackson. It's about a woman with two heads who is part of a subculture called twoferism since in this parallel present nuclear tests have caused tons of two-headed people. But the main character, Nora (or is it Blanche) wants nothing more than to be a person with one head and she devotes her whole life to transitioning. It's my fave novel and my best friend from college turned me on to it. I miss her. If you are not a fan of women writers, then you may not like it. Also, can you kiss my butt lol

While I think it is incredibly noble to get involved and help out, I can understand why someone who is post-transition would be hesitant to be too public. And considering what Alaina and MaidofOrleans (can't I just call you Joan of Arc? it's so much easier to write lol JK) said about some trans women (and this isn't the first time I have heard this), i imagine it isn't too fun dealing with negativity and awkwardness all the time. You have to have a certain personality. I'm hesitant myself to go to trans support groups.

But to address the OP's original complaint, it is pretty messed up they wouldn't give you the name of a laser tech. Telling someone who your laser tech is is not helping someone out; it's being a decent person. I guess I'm lucky though as I live in one of the most trans-friendly areas around. Now, I just have to smooze the Doctor and get her to give me SRS on a sliding scale cause I'm struggling financially right now. This could change though.
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Dragonnear

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MaidofOrleans

Quote from: Dragonnear on April 24, 2013, 05:24:09 AM
I need help u guys to start my life as girl :'(

You could start by introducing yourself in the introductions forum  ;)
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Nicole

when I first came out mum found a support group for me to go to.
I left that night in tears, I couldn't believe that people who had the same feelings as me could be such bitches.

The first thing that was said to me was "you don't belong here, you're too young and don't know what you are"

I try now to help, if theres a trans person that needs to vent, find a doctor or just needs ask what they think is the dumbest of questions I'm here.

Yes! I'm single
And you'll have to be pretty f'ing amazing to change that
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Cassandra Hyacinth

Quote from: Nicole on April 24, 2013, 06:36:37 AM
when I first came out mum found a support group for me to go to.
I left that night in tears, I couldn't believe that people who had the same feelings as me could be such bitches.

The first thing that was said to me was "you don't belong here, you're too young and don't know what you are"

Wow, that sucks. How old were you at the time? :/

I know a couple of trans men IRL, and they've been extremely supportive and helpful towards me. I try and help them out accordingly as best I can, though often times they're dealing with issues which I can't really help them with (especially with regards to physical and mental health conditions).
My Skype name is twisted_strings.

If you need someone to talk to, and would like to add me as a contact, send me a contact request on Skype, plus a PM on here telling me your Skype name.  :)
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Rita

I am ok with supporting others like me, but I cringe when people say trans this and trans that.  For me transition is to permanately represent another gender
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MaidofOrleans

There is so few of us and we are spread so thin it's really hard to push serious help. While our LGB friends have assembled armies to fight ignorance and hate, it feels like every trans person is a lone wolf operative, a secret agent in a sea of ignorance, hate, and confusion.

Our condition is so confusing not only to us but to others that it makes it extremely difficult for us to establish the kind of help and support we need. We almost rely too heavily on chasing after the gay community that we've never really established one of our own. I'm all for being allied with LGB people as I believe the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but they just don't understand us any more than other cis people to provide the help we need.

It really does piss me off that I have to explain to everyone why "I didn't just go gay because it would be easier." and working with other trans people is so hard because frankly as others have pointed out, so many of them are so confused and beaten down fighting their own feelings and those around them to figure themselves out that they've either been driven mad or into hiding.

One reason I've chosen to never go stealth is because my sanity, my support, and the ease of my transition (comparatively) has put me into a unique transition to provide some sort of trans example to the cis community. Like "Hey look i'm trans and a person like you, don't be a dick!" I've even made it clear to everyone I meet that i'm open to any question they have about me, even ones that many trans women have made clear is none of anyone's business. I've already gotten every question that you can think of from feelings, to biology to sexuality and I've answered every one I can in the name of education and understanding. I hope that these people will pass on this experience to others and enlighten them as to our struggles and the reality of our bodies and feelings.

I'm hoping that once I go full time I can speak to other young people maybe in guest lectures or something and educate. Anything I can to show as many people as possible that we aren't freaks or monsters. Even if I change a few minds it's worth my time and privacy.
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Jayne

One of the workers at the hostel in which i'm currently residing has been at head office today to discuss them supporting setting up Trans support groups as I pointed out that there is a lack of them in this town.
He said he'll try to let me know tomorrow what was discussed.

As he sais to me the other week "you're in contact with 2 other transitioners on this forum so you already have a group"
He said that the organisation should be able to help with a venue & assistance
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Ltl89

Quote from: MaidofOrleans on April 24, 2013, 01:26:50 PM
There is so few of us and we are spread so thin it's really hard to push serious help. While our LGB friends have assembled armies to fight ignorance and hate, it feels like every trans person is a lone wolf operative, a secret agent in a sea of ignorance, hate, and confusion.

Our condition is so confusing not only to us but to others that it makes it extremely difficult for us to establish the kind of help and support we need. We almost rely too heavily on chasing after the gay community that we've never really established one of our own. I'm all for being allied with LGB people as I believe the enemy of my enemy is my friend, but they just don't understand us any more than other cis people to provide the help we need.

It really does piss me off that I have to explain to everyone why "I didn't just go gay because it would be easier." and working with other trans people is so hard because frankly as others have pointed out, so many of them are so confused and beaten down fighting their own feelings and those around them to figure themselves out that they've either been driven mad or into hiding.

One reason I've chosen to never go stealth is because my sanity, my support, and the ease of my transition (comparatively) has put me into a unique transition to provide some sort of trans example to the cis community. Like "Hey look i'm trans and a person like you, don't be a dick!" I've even made it clear to everyone I meet that i'm open to any question they have about me, even ones that many trans women have made clear is none of anyone's business. I've already gotten every question that you can think of from feelings, to biology to sexuality and I've answered every one I can in the name of education and understanding. I hope that these people will pass on this experience to others and enlighten them as to our struggles and the reality of our bodies and feelings.

I'm hoping that once I go full time I can speak to other young people maybe in guest lectures or something and educate. Anything I can to show as many people as possible that we aren't freaks or monsters. Even if I change a few minds it's worth my time and privacy.

That was an incredible post!  It does feel like we are often alone and even lgb community can be ignorant.  I have seen people at an lgbt center laugh and giggle at trans people.  What the hell is wrong with some of them!?  It really amazes me how difficult it is to understand that one's gender has nothing to do with their sexuality.  Yet, the ignorance never seems to fade. 

I think it is awesome that you plan on donating your time after going full time.  We need more people like that in our community, but it is very difficult for people to stand up as role models in such an ignorant society.  Most just want to live their lives without any more drama or societal backlash.  While it would be helpful if they were more helpful to those who are transitioning or coming out, I completely understand their decision and respect it. 
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Ltl89

Quote from: Dragonnear on April 24, 2013, 05:24:09 AM
I need help u guys to start my life as girl :'(

I never mind talking to another girl in need. Feel free to post any questions or concerns in the forums. This community is a great support system and there are many things that I have learned from the other people on here. Also, don't hesitate to contact me if you need someone to talk to :)
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JoanneB

Quote from: learningtolive on April 24, 2013, 02:18:14 PM
That was an incredible post!  It does feel like we are often alone and even lgb community can be ignorant.  I have seen people at an lgbt center laugh and giggle at trans people.  What the hell is wrong with some of them!?  It really amazes me how difficult it is to understand that one's gender has nothing to do with their sexuality.  Yet, the ignorance never seems to fade. 

A common lament among many of us isthe T in LGBT stands for Token.

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Nicole

Yes! I'm single
And you'll have to be pretty f'ing amazing to change that
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Kelly J. P.

 There tends to be a lot of drama where lots of trans people meet together; the environment is just, in my experience, usually not a mature one.

I'm not quite sure why this is. Perhaps it's for a similar reason to teenagers being immature.

I help other trans girls when I can. I'm not very good at helping, and I don't have many resources, but I always make sure that I can listen if someone is feeling depressed... and I do my best to help suicidal people when I meet them. It's the least I can do, especially because trans people are a large part of a very small group of people that I can actually sympathize with.
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