FtM with Autism?

[Erfinderischer]

I wonder if there are any other people on this site who are both FtM and have autism? The trans people I've met at group therapy and those I've talked to on the internet are most concerned with their gender identity as it relates to society, appearance, outgoing activities, and other people around them, but me, I've always had difficulties with all of those things and my gender identity difficulty is that my body doesn't mechanically make sense to my mind. That seems to stand out in the trans community.

[Contravene]

I don't have autism but I can relate to how you feel and I'm sure many other people can too so you aren't alone.

Being male in a female body has never made sense to my mind and sometimes I feel very detached from my body. I want to transition so that who I am on the outside will finally match who I've always been on the inside, not just because I want to fit into male social roles. If I fit into those male roles once I transition, great, but I'm much more concerned about correcting the discrepancy between my mind and body.

[Nygeel]

I am not, but I know plenty of FTM/trans masculine/trans men who are autistic.

[Natkat]

I wonder if there are any other people on this site who are both FtM and have autism? The trans people I've met at group therapy and those I've talked to on the internet are most concerned with their gender identity as it relates to society, appearance, outgoing activities, and other people around them, but me, I've always had difficulties with all of those things and my gender identity difficulty is that my body doesn't mechanically make sense to my mind. That seems to stand out in the trans community.

i'm sorry but I don't understand your question.
at one point you ask. "is there any other trans people with autism?" but below you type out a a certain
way you feel diffrent from others in the way you relates to people and how you live which people autism or not can have in common or not? I somehow got the felling you rather want to know if anyone feel simular to this rather than if they got autism but I could be wrong.

is there other people with autism who is trans, yes sure there is, actually I think a high number of people I know got dignosed with either an autism dignose or ADD or other things as well as in cisgender people

[aleon515]

Yeah I have Asperger's. I believe it to be quite common in the ftm (but not mtf) community. It makes sense, as one of the explanations for autism has to do with high levels of T in utero. I don't know re: groups. I don't have too hard a time. I am one of those autistic types that is more outgoing but not always entirely acceptably.

Two challenges I've had are binders. I finally found the loveboat binder (Air Max pullover) and the gvc gynocomastia vests. But I can't stand different sorts of textures and so on next to me. This one is really nice (though $$$) and actually could help a bit in some ways by giving some pressure.

The second has been that I tend to have a hard time with getting outside myself. I was doing pretty well on this and then I discovered the gender stuff and now I am back to having trouble with this.

--Jay

[Blaine]

I may have Asperger's and have two unofficial diagnoses from acquaintances in the clinical psychology program at my old school. I've learned to mask my social issues to an acceptable level but I've had a couple of public meltdowns I'm not proud of. I'm going to look into a referral for a specialist next year since the therapist I'm seeing right now is technically only a marriage counselor.

I have sensory issues that push me to either wear a baggy t-shirt or an extremely baggy sweatshirt every day, every year. I don't think I'm going to bother buying a binder because I know I'll never wear it. I spent over $100 just trying to find sports bras I could stand without pitching a fit twenty minutes into the day because of it. I love late October-early February in Vegas because it's sweatshirt season. I've got 3 identical black sweatshirts I rotate through and I don't need to bind with them. I won't know what to do with myself after top surgery. No more plotting. 

[aleon515]

I have sensory issues that push me to either wear a baggy t-shirt or an extremely baggy sweatshirt every day, every year. I don't think I'm going to bother buying a binder because I know I'll never wear it. I spent over $100 just trying to find sports bras I could stand

Blaine, I don't blame you. I have gone thru probably a couple hundred dollars getting a binder I can tolerate, like. It's a good thing I can (kind of) afford this. I have donated a lot of binders to people and the trans center anyway.


--Jay

[Kelly-087]

I wonder if there are any other people on this site who are both FtM and have autism? The trans people I've met at group therapy and those I've talked to on the internet are most concerned with their gender identity as it relates to society, appearance, outgoing activities, and other people around them, but me, I've always had difficulties with all of those things and my gender identity difficulty is that my body doesn't mechanically make sense to my mind. That seems to stand out in the trans community.

I've read that about 40% of girls with aspergers identify as male.

I should add that I only identify them as girls because this statistic didn't describe transition or any of that.

[FTMDiaries]

I have Asperger's too, and I've had gender issues since I was 5 years old.

Not only do autistic people have a higher prevalence of gender dysphoria than the general population, there is also a higher prevalence of gender dysphoria in female-bodied autistic people than in male-bodied autistic people. The current thinking is that an autistic brain is one with a leaning towards typically masculine traits, so if you're born female and autistic you're more likely think and behave like a male.

I'm currently participating in Cambridge University research into this phenomenon. It'll be interesting to see what they discover.

[Natkat]

I've read that about 40% of girls with aspergers identify as male.

the number seams extremly high even when I do think I seen many transgender with either autism dignose or ADD dignose including of myself, but to think of 40% of them still makes me feel wierd.
I cant jugde cause I dont know how people identify unless I ask them. I think if the number is as high then I would show more focus in have more transgender accepting autism comunetys as one of my main focus.

something I notice with girls an autism is that girl sign of autism is decribed very closely with what common for most transguys. I read in one of my moms autism magazines and when they talk of girls they wrotte something like.
"girls with autism are often undignosed or less visable because they dont have the typical autism problems boys do, often they have good social skills yet they tend to feel disconnected and misunderstood and often gather into comunetys of diffrent kind of subcultures who can accept them being diffrent"

I cant stop thinking how typical the decribtion sound for many transguys.

[BlackBird]

Hi there! Yes, I have Aspergers Syndrome. People usually can't tell because I'm not your typical Autist. I'm very social, Very outgoing, I feel like I fit Into my own little group of friends, I love being out In public and I don't have trouble socially as much as others do. -- Also, I used to have the clothing sensitivity but thank god I somehow grew out of It.

I was diagnosed when I was 3 or 4 I believe. I had a very severe case of It but fortunately, I changed. I grew out of most of the problems I had. I never used to be able to talk In public, I would hate the public, I felt like I didn't fit In with anyone and that I never would, Etc.

However, I don't feel as though being a FTM was caused or.. Influenced by Autism. Generally, These girls who are Autistic and such and much more androgynous than male despite Identifying as male. -- I actually want a bit of muscle mass, I would like thicker eyebrows and ofcourse, Some proper junk, Etc and so on.

But yes, I do find It very Interesting!

[LocustToybox]

I actually have Aspergers Syndrome AND  sociopathy (No, that doesn't mean that I am a serial killer... Autism and Sociopathy are actually extremely similar) It adds an interesting dynamic to my gender issues, how I interact with others, and my perception of myself and others.

[Erik Ezrin]

I have mild Aspergers too.
Usually I don't notice it too much, nor do others, but on stressful situations, and when first interacting with people, it pops up again.
I'm pretty good at camouflaging it though, and I've kind of 'learned' to be more social over time, to the point that -with the right people- I quite enjoy it.
I also need my peace though, and can sometimes feel like I get completely 'overloaded', if that makes sense.

[aleon515]

I have mild Aspergers too.
Usually I don't notice it too much, nor do others, but on stressful situations, and when first interacting with people, it pops up again.
I'm pretty good at camouflaging it though, and I've kind of 'learned' to be more social over time, to the point that -with the right people- I quite enjoy it.
I also need my peace though, and can sometimes feel like I get completely 'overloaded', if that makes sense.

Only too well Erik. I think mine is very mild at this point, but I was more autistic behaving as a younger person. I did the whole lining up of toys and not looking at the camera when I got a picture taken. I had extreme trouble interacting til maybe my late 20s.

The 40% seems high but maybe not if you include all girls/women that are in the masculine range of female too--  such a perpetual tomboys and butches. OTOH, I have heard people say that maybe 1 in 250 is gender noncomforming, so there plenty of people that don't actually transition.


--Jay