Dieitng for muscle mass loss

[A]

Right now I'm focusing on getting a decent dose and perhaps the beginning of some sort of breasts before full-time this summer and going back to school as a girl in the autumn. I'll try to talk about safety later, when the obvious, huge, urgent stupid stuff is corrected.

[Alainaluvsu]

I'd be ready to strangle that doctor.. lol

[A]

You wouldn't. He's reaaaaally nice. Just... not very uhm. Dunno. I tell him one thing and he understands another. But you can't want to strangle that soft old man who really looks like he cares. Kick some sense into his head, maybe, though. :p

[Alainaluvsu]

Take my hormones away from me and see what I become ....

[Tristan]

Take my hormones away from me and see what I become ....

lol i dont think anyone would do that.. you dont seem like you take crap from anyone. i think if they tried you would make the doctor cry 

[Joanna Dark]

If you're not having live panels done there are ways to tell if you are having liver issues before they get really bad. (A) Your stool. If it is black, it could mean there is blood in it but is also associated with the the liver not functioning properly. (This would happen every time not just once. (B) an aching tenderness in the low right quadrant. The liver does not have nerves so it doesn't feel pain but if you developing a fatty liver then it will push against the edge of the ribcage, causing discomfort. (C) Jaundice. Your nails, your eyes, and then your skin. See a doctor immediately if you have jaundice. I'm sure there are other symptoms but those ones come to mind.

Anyhoo, for muscle loss, what I'm doing and have been doing for awhile, is cycling on my stationary bike. You'll want to stretch your arms forward and bend forward in the drop position like your in a race. This uses you muscles as stabilizing agents rather then working them out. Plus, you'll lose weight. Also, eat salads. It's like anti-eating since eat burns more calories than it give you. The plank too is a must to get rid of that pesky, icky stomach fat. Oooh, and yoga. can't forget yoga. Itis just totally fun and so relaxing so why wouldn't you want to do it, yes?

This is what I do. I used to have bigger arms too like about 14 inches flexed and now they are 12.5 flexed and 11 not flexed. I had a lot of trouble getting strong in the first place it took me five years of weight lifting and all kinds of supplements to get to 160 lbs. (I'm 5'6). When I stop, even for a week, it melts off me like crazy fast. But I have low T. That' a story for a different thread so i won't go there.

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[Joanna Dark]

Yup that's it. The lower right side of the rib cage. I don't want to scare you though. And if it is happening right after you eat, that is prob the cause. These things are rare and the liver is the most resiliant, amazing organ. It literally regrows itself! If you do feel a tenderness there, lie down on you back and fell right at the horizon of your ribcage and stomach where the last rib bone is, if you have fatty liver, it will be kind of poking out. You'll feel it. But, you should prob look at some YouTube videos on how to do this right. You could also be feeling muscle. I highly doubt there is anything wrong with your liver. Jaundice would probably come before this type of pain. Like I said, the liver has no nerves so if you are feeling pain there it is most likely something else. You should get your ALT levels checked but again, please don't worry as unless your taking premarin or some other old estrogen the chance of developing a liver problem are fairly slim. It's an easy solve too. Take your pills sublingually or get patches or injections. I think doctors are much more worried about DVT then liver problems. I'm not a doctor so my advice is just that, advice, but I do know a lot about the liver. I prefer it with a nice chianti and some fave beans lol hehehe

[Jennygirl]

Sooo an update on muscle mass. I've been making it a point to not lift anything over 5 pounds, I cut animal protein out of my diet completely except for eggs, and I've been riding my bicycle everywhere. My arm muscle is disappearing so quickly I loooove it I've lost about 1" off of each arm since starting HRT.

Obviously I can't get away with not lifting 5+ lbs all time time. Like when I want to cuddle my kittehs!

[Tristan]

Go Jenny. That's really good news

[A]

Eating more fat, I'd recommend against that. Fat is twice as caloric as sugar or protein for the same mass. And from what I've seen, it doesn't make one feel especially full. Water, fibre and protein do. Not to mention fat just doesn't taste good.

[Keaira]

Before I lost my job, I still had big arms. I had to use a 14lb impact gun all the time so even on HRT, my arms stayed big enough that I had a couple of women say they wished they had arms like mine. But one told me that when she saw me, she said, "Damn! that is one big girl!"
Now that I'm not lifting, my arms are apparently getting smaller. I wish my legs would too. And my belly. That especially. yep.

[Nicolette]

Eating more fat, I'd recommend against that. Fat is twice as caloric as sugar or protein for the same mass. And from what I've seen, it doesn't make one feel especially full. Water, fibre and protein do. Not to mention fat just doesn't taste good.

It's fat in many foods that makes food taste good. French fries, doughnuts? Fat on its own tastes like fish oil supplements or lard. Yuck. Fat in foods like salmon, mackerel, walnuts and flax seeds is good for you.

[Jennygirl]

Trying not to lift anything over 5lbs has made the hugest difference for me. If I do have to lift something a little heavier, I am just much more conscious of not using my biceps- so I kind of just counter balance my body and keep my hand tight.

It can be a pain in the butt, but the difference in my confidence wearing tanks  and things that show my arms has been waaay worth it. Plus I just ask my guy friends to lift stuff, which is kinda fun and they get a kick out of it.

[Joanna Dark]

If you want to lose muscle, you have to do aerobic exercise AND be running a caloric deficit AND be low on protein. Aerobic exercise directly uses glycogen stores in the muscle for fuel when you are low on calories. It's also important to keep the intake of red meat down as well. Protein will maintain any muscles you have. My arms were 14 inches about 4 months ago; now they are 11.5 inches. The shoulder muscles have proven to be more stubborn.

[Nicolette]

If you want to lose muscle, you have to do aerobic exercise AND be running a caloric deficit AND be low on protein. Aerobic exercise directly uses glycogen stores in the muscle for fuel when you are low on calories. It's also important to keep the intake of red meat down as well. Protein will maintain any muscles you have. My arms were 14 inches about 4 months ago; now they are 11.5 inches.

I always wondered how much muscle, and which ones, I maintain by playing the piano for hours. It's my main exercise.

The shoulder muscles have proven to be more stubborn.

One thing, you've got quite narrow shoulders from what I've seen. So you don't have too much worry, really.

[Joanna Dark]

I always wondered how much muscle, and which ones, I maintain by playing the piano for hours. It's my main exercise.

One thing, you've got quite narrow shoulders from what I've seen. So you don't have too much worry, really.

I'm not that worried about my shoulders at all. I am lucky in that they are only 13.5-14 inches wide which is really narrow. They used to really bother me but a lot of my features that used to annoy me are now proving to be assets.

I'm not sure how much the piano would maiintain muscles but I'm sure it does. Any time I move my fingers I can feel most of my upper arm muscles working, so it does something, especially if you are practicing for hours. I love love love the piano by the way.

[Jennygirl]

My shoulder measurement has changed the most. I know it's not just a product of muscle loss, though. I've been correcting my slouchy posture by rotating the shoulders up an then back to straighten out my spine and my shoulders go in significantly, too. With both, my shoulder circumference has gone from 42" to 37" :O