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What was your T level at the beginning of HRT

Started by xterra, May 16, 2013, 02:45:40 PM

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Sammy

Quote from: Theo on June 26, 2013, 06:25:51 PM
That is my understanding, and one of the reasons why my endo suspects that my rather high initial T levels (759...) did relatively little harm all things considered.

You can calculate your free androgen index quite easily by dividing your total T by your SHBG value * 100. Just be careful to use the same units; usually nmol/L. Not a perfect comparison to free T, but close enough. Anything under 30 seems to be seen as androgen deficient, female values are between 7-10.

By total T You mean T as such or T plus free T? Because, if it just T, then my index is 17 (ng/ml for T and nmol/L for SHBG). And looking at myself in the mirror, I have to admit that puberty was quite kind on me - well it could have been even kinder, but we cant wish everything :P


Quote from: Horizon on June 27, 2013, 12:13:44 AM
I got my test results back a few days ago, and apparently my T is pretty low for guys at 263ng/dl (standard American unit, right?).  I'm hoping that's low enough that a) I won't need a high dosage of Spiro, or b) proscar (generic, ofc) + estrogen would be enough to bring it down to female range.  Estrogen sounds pretty cheap, but I just don't have the funds for Spiro :/

Its is so weird reading about You guys in US, because Spiro is dirt cheap here in Europe - it is the E which is more expensive, though I would not call it overpriced too...
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Theo

Quote from: Sammy on June 27, 2013, 02:22:41 AM
By total T You mean T as such or T plus free T? Because, if it just T, then my index is 17 (ng/ml for T and nmol/L for SHBG). And looking at myself in the mirror, I have to admit that puberty was quite kind on me - well it could have been even kinder, but we cant wish everything :P


Its is so weird reading about You guys in US, because Spiro is dirt cheap here in Europe - it is the E which is more expensive, though I would not call it overpriced too...

Total T, so the standard value that they give you when you get it measured. Note though that you have to convert the T into nmol/L prior to doing the calculation. Grabbing my 6 week result, I had 424 ng/dl for T, and 87 nmol/L for SHBG, so the calculation is: (424(T value)*288.42(molecular mass of T)*10(dl->L) / 87(SHBG) ) * 100

Actually in my case the androcur is the more expensive component. I'm always surprised at just how cheap the E is. So it seems YMMV even when just looking across Europe.
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JenAtLast

Pre it was 457...after 6 months it was 254.  Changed from 100mg of Spiro a day to 200mg...can't wait to see the next reading. 
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Beth Andrea

After 16 months, my levels have been very consistent...

E is 434 pg/mL                  (normal range for a male is 0-56)

Testosterone, Free   [L]  <0.2 pg/mL                  (normal range for a male is 5.0-40.0)

Testosterone, Total  [L]  46 ng/dL                      (normal range for a male is 291-739)

(Ranges are from the lab report, yours may vary)
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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Theo

Quote from: Beth Andrea on June 30, 2013, 09:25:44 AM
After 16 months, my levels have been very consistent...
E is 434 pg/mL                  (normal range for a male is 0-56)
Testosterone, Free   [L]  <0.2 pg/mL                  (normal range for a male is 5.0-40.0)
Testosterone, Total  [L]  46 ng/dL                      (normal range for a male is 291-739)
(Ranges are from the lab report, yours may vary)

Hm. After 4 months I'm running at:

E:  61 pg/ml (0-56 range -- pre-HRT baseline value was 48)
T total: <20 ng/dl (129-767 range -- pre-HRT baseline 759)

While measured in the morning prior to me taking my pills, I got a bit worried about the relatively low E. My endo told me that she is mainly looking at the LH and FSH values, and as long as they are low, everything is okay:

LH: 0.6 mlU/ml (1-7.6 range -- pre-HRT 3.03)
FSH: 0.3 mlU/ml (0.7-11 range -- pre-HRT 3.24)

Seeing as my breasts are still growing etc. I'm inclined to trust her expertise for now. :)
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Beth Andrea

Yeah, numbers are just that--numbers. While I do feel good seeing mine, I know that even if I didn't, I "feel" right, in terms of aggression/anxiety/body hair caused by T (non-existent), while at the same time feeling and seeing femme changes and etc = good E values.
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
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Tammy M

245 ng/dl. I had been on a lower dose of Spiro for a few months though, so I will never know what it was before..
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Holly58

 
My starting testosterone serum  17.8nmoL/L
Serum free T4 12.6pmol/L
TSH 1.21mU/L
  Xx Holly
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PrincessDayna

768 ng/dl prior to hrt back in june. :/ nit sure where its at now, i see the endo for follow up in sept
"Self truth is evident when one accepts self awareness.  From such, serenity". ~Me  ;)



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pebbles

I will never know, Self medded for years prior to getting my first blood test, But I did do significant damage to my testicles prior to my transition tho so I'd imagine it to be lower, Aside from that I don't know but it felt like a colossal amount.
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Katie10

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