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Started by Metroland, May 20, 2013, 01:49:51 PM

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Metroland

I have been struggling in the department of gender.  Every so often something comes up that makes one question their ideals.

I have posted about this before that a wedding is coming up and I don't know what to wear.  I have not gone through any transition whatsoever except for the women deodorant and perfume I use.  I live in a conservative place so it is not easy to present as I choose.  This is not an enough reason not to express myself how I'd like to.

Since I have to wear a suit I am struggling.  It sucks to be told by parents and family that I have to look like a penguin and the colors that they choose for me are all "masculine" colors for me and I don't identify with them.

I see gender as something similar to emotion.  One is not born with a specific gender, one learns what one likes and not like.  For instance I would like to put makeup on and I don't think of it as a feminine thing or a masculine thing.  I just like to do it.  Same thing like emotion you might be a happy person and you might be a cranky person.  One is not labelled from birth if they are happy or cranky.  It is so difficult though to cross the gender boundaries as the walls are set really high by society.

As for how I started into this journey, is when I felt that my genitalia aren't in the right place.  Unfortunately this has been going on since 2006 and I have no idea what I want down there? Do I want a vagina? I don't think so? So what problem do I have with my male bodied genitalia?  How do I know what I want down there?  I am really confused about this.  I don't know why I haven't figured it out until now.

Anyone went through such an experience?
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Taka

being forced into a box by society is nothing new. people tell me all the time to wear more feminine clothing, and to show off my decently sized boobs. especially women with smaller boobs than me want to face me into show off shirts. while i'd rather cut them off, more than half of the time...

my genitalia are something i don't know what to feel about. i don't mind my vagina, but i do feel like something is missing and out of place. i'd probably prefer to be a hermaphrodite, but i'm undecided as to whether i want male or female secondary sex characteristics, or an ability to switch between male, female, and any other possible or impossible combination of those. if i had to choose right now, i'd go for no boobs and a deeper voice. not all of what i want, but the rest is impossible.
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Metroland

Hi Taka,

Yes it is confusing.  I also would like to have a bit a mix down there.  I too struggle with things that are impossible such as wanting to get pregnant.  That is not going to happen.  Sometimes I feel that surgery is just cosmetic as the inside stays the same.

I wonder from a psychiatric (or anatomical) point of of view what makes one reject their genitalia?  Are there cases in history where both a penis and a vagina can be accommodated (I am not referring to intersexed situations)?  Why are we hang up on what is between our legs?
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Kaelin

Our gender is independent of body/sex characteristics, which are both independent of various gender-associated/stereotyped preferences, behaviors, feelings, and expressions.  That said, gender-associated/stereotyped preferences, behaviors, feelings, and expressions still end up screwing with our minds and corrupting the information we're trying to process from ourselves, in terms of our gender, our body, and even other preferences, behaviors, feelings and expressions.  I mean, just think about all the kinds of body issues western culture gives even to cis-gendered individuals (women moreso than men, but men as well), and how those affect how people act and feel about themselves.  For people who are more actively considering what their gender is (and the kind of body they want to have), the stress is even greater, although those more actively thinking about it may be better equipped to think critically.  Still, those kinds of body issues for cis-people may be getting me to think about whether I should hop on low-dose HRT for hips and minor boobage.  Just the fact there is all this noise makes us consider whether we should tinker with things when it isn't necessarily in our best interest, and it becomes difficult to separate real indicators of wanting to "change" versus things that are just noise.

I'm a little more sure of having a male identity, but I fully relate with the dressing-like-a-penguin issue.  The more you think about it, the more obviously-ridiculous it is to have gender-specific clothing rules.
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Metroland

Quote from: Kaelin on May 20, 2013, 03:48:55 PM
I'm a little more sure of having a male identity, but I fully relate with the dressing-like-a-penguin issue.  The more you think about it, the more obviously-ridiculous it is to have gender-specific clothing rules.

Yes absolutely.  I really wonder how our society became so uptight that they assign a dress code for every person.  If I wear something other than a suit I will not look formal?

All the colors I am finding are dim and dark.  Nothing light and fresh.  I take my mom with me to shop and she picks out all the colors that look masculine on me.  It bugs me that my mom wants to think of me as a son just her child.  I am afraid as I feel that if I start expressing myself in a feminine way she will not love me as much.  Unfortunately this is all happening because I want to choose what to wear to the wedding.  How stressed will I be when the wedding arrives.

I too would like to have some HRT to feminize myself and maybe to develop small breasts but not something too big that I would have to wear a bra.
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