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Andrej Pejic HRT?

Started by Metroland, June 05, 2013, 12:20:12 PM

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Skinny18

 I don't think he used HRT, just gained some muscles. Tho I prefer his earlier skinny look, like myself. His body is a copy of mine, even same height.  :P
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lolife

I've never heard of this person before, but they're gorgeous and fascinating.  Wow.
-Yeah, I actually am this awesome. ;) /tongue firmly in cheek
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Joanna Dark

Quote from: Skinny18 on June 24, 2013, 06:06:16 PM
I don't think he used HRT, just gained some muscles. Tho I prefer his earlier skinny look, like myself. His body is a copy of mine, even same height.  :P

Yeah that's what I thought. I mean I barely see anything going on with the chest area. Wouldn't call them boobs. I have had pointy cone-shaped boobs since I was 17 and they are certainly way bigger then them. Before I started HRT I was going to get them cut off, but the doctor said it would be okay for a year and they'd grow right back.

I agree with GYLF too about Andre being pretty but kinda masculine looking.
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xchristine

There are prettier girls here on this site. 

He's all make up angles and photshop...

And I knoooow a lot if us girls can smoke him hands
Down...how can an fem boy comapre to a full on
Ts girl??
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kelly_aus

Quote from: xchristine on June 26, 2013, 10:22:03 PM
There are prettier girls here on this site. 

He's all make up angles and photshop...

And I knoooow a lot if us girls can smoke him hands
Down...how can an fem boy comapre to a full on
Ts girl??

He has never claimed to be anything but a man.. And a cute guy from the western suburbs of Melbourne he is.

I can't think of another MAN that has been the lead in an advertising campaign for bras.. Nor can I think of many men that will model women's clothes and make them look good - he does it with ease. 
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Renee

I can't imagine a need to speculate on that sort of thing about someone, its simply their business until they decide to tell anything like that, whether they are famous or not.
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xchristine

Quote from: Renee on June 27, 2013, 03:43:44 PM
I can't imagine a need to speculate on that sort of thing about someone, its simply their business until they decide to tell anything like that, whether they are famous or not.

We're woman....we gossip ...
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Mermaid

Quote from: xchristine on June 26, 2013, 10:22:03 PM
There are prettier girls here on this site. 

He's all make up angles and photshop...

And I knoooow a lot if us girls can smoke him hands
Down...how can an fem boy comapre to a full on
Ts girl??

Uhm... that's like saying TS girls can't compare to cis girls, which isn't true... Andrej is stunning and in my opinion is prettier than most females you see out there. His face is otherwordly, but that's just my opinion...

Regarding HRT... I really can't tell with him, it's possible but I have no clue. He denies it, but I doubt he'd admit to such a thing unless he was intending to transition fully, it'd pass a poor message to people and I don't think HRT should be taken very lightly...
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Stella Stanhope

Interesting!

I'vve wondered about Pejic since I saw an article about him.

When I was 19 and 20 I was in the same highly androgynous ballpark. Very slender body, thick long hair, very soft skin etc. Right up until 26 years of age. Sadly, unlike Pejic, I was made to feel like a freak by everyone I knew, especially girlfriends, so I couldn't capitalise on it. I'm pretty bitter about that, especially the older I get, and especially as how the more degraded, ape-like and masculine I look - the more people seem to be overjoyed. Makes me sick.

My body is pushing the masculinization all the way now, so it's one way or the other it seems. I kind of hoped I'd stay where I was.

I wonder how Pejic will age. He would need some sort of intervention I guess.

Men are not designed to stay neotenous. There's a beast in every man waiting to come out.
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Lyric

I'm sorry to hear your youthful androgyny was problemed. I was quite androgynous at that age as well, but I guess I had a much better experience. I had a very liberal and tolerant group of friends. My girlfriend then actually had very short hair while mine was quite long, so we were a very andro couple. She loved my look, though, and we had a lot of fun. My only issues were with jobs and workplace situations, which, in the 1980s, was not so tolerant of gender diversity.

BTW, welcome to Susans, theirrationaldress. I think you'll like it here.

~ Lyric ~
"Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life." - Steve Jobs
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Dahlia

Quote from: theirrationaldress on July 08, 2013, 10:08:20 PM
Interesting!

I'vve wondered about Pejic since I saw an article about him.

When I was 19 and 20 I was in the same highly androgynous ballpark. Very slender body, thick long hair, very soft skin etc. Right up until 26 years of age. Sadly, unlike Pejic, I was made to feel like a freak by everyone I knew, especially girlfriends, so I couldn't capitalise on it. I'm pretty bitter about that, especially the older I get, and especially as how the more degraded, ape-like and masculine I look - the more people seem to be overjoyed. Makes me sick.

My body is pushing the masculinization all the way now, so it's one way or the other it seems. I kind of hoped I'd stay where I was.

I wonder how Pejic will age. He would need some sort of intervention I guess.

Men are not designed to stay neotenous. There's a beast in every man waiting to come out.

Wow, I recognize myself completely in your story!

Except for preventing masculinization by going on HRT, right in time, at 25.

But before the age of 25....my life was made into a living nightmare by people in general.

After HRT my life turned 'into a flowerbed'.... people in general went all friendly and sweet and mild mannered....which I just couldn't understand for the first few years after having endured such agressiveness for being very fem/androgynous.

Developing facial and bodyhair, evt going bald, masculinization in general....I couldn't bear the thought and probably my life had been made even worse then before...ending in killing myself.

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Bubblegum

You guys are scaring the c**p out of me right now! o.O
Is it true that your body (especially the face) will drastically change after 25? I'm 21 and like some people here who posted, I look quiet androgynous. (I'm male) I do not have the 'wish' to undergo a surgery or anything. I feel comfortable the way I am. But I want to stay this way. I want to keep looking androgynous.
Is it even possible without hrt or at least antiandrogens? Because I don't think I would get a prescription for those, purely for the sake of 'vanity'.
And please don't try to calm me down or anything, just tell me the cold hard truth.

On topic: I think Andrej is grogeous and yes he might be on hrt. But there is this new model who looks EXACTLY like a girl. His name is Stav Strashko. Google him, you'll be knocked off your socks. He looks so much like Keira Knightley, it's creepy.
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BunnyBee

Yes it can change.  I had essentially a female face my whole life until 27ish, when it started turning androgish masculinish.  Luckily I intervened not too long later with Hrt and most of that masculinization was turned back to how it was before.   If I had waited a few more years, idk if that would have happened.

I am pretty sure some of the androgynes on this board use HRT to stay in an androg range, you may want to look over in their section and learn more.
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sandrauk

Quote from: Bubblegum on March 04, 2014, 10:28:37 AM
You guys are scaring the c**p out of me right now! o.O
Is it true that your body (especially the face) will drastically change after 25? I'm 21 and like some people here who posted, I look quiet androgynous. (I'm male) I do not have the 'wish' to undergo a surgery or anything. I feel comfortable the way I am. But I want to stay this way. I want to keep looking androgynous.
Is it even possible without hrt or at least antiandrogens? Because I don't think I would get a prescription for those, purely for the sake of 'vanity'.
And please don't try to calm me down or anything, just tell me the cold hard truth.

On topic: I think Andrej is grogeous and yes he might be on hrt. But there is this new model who looks EXACTLY like a girl. His name is Stav Strashko. Google him, you'll be knocked off your socks. He looks so much like Keira Knightley, it's creepy.

Sadly that's true for most, including me. When I look back at the photos of me aged 26 I would have had a great transition, by 28 it was all over. I was watching Grease last night , which John Travolta played at 24 and he was very masculine. YMMV
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kira21 ♡♡♡

Its funny. UK Stylist magazine did a special on Andrej this months too, and some of the statements that Andrej makes in it are quite contradictory when placed next to this article. For example, they refer to Andrej as she and state, that 'she' prefers to be referred to as female and 'has a female soul'.

Coincidentally, another one of the most popular fashion/girls magazines called Glamour, ran a multipage on Carmen Carrera this month too. The world is going trans crazy I tell you! By the end of the week, we will *all* be celebrities! lol.

Lyric

Quote from: Bubblegum on March 04, 2014, 10:28:37 AM
Is it true that your body (especially the face) will drastically change after 25?...

But there is this new model who looks EXACTLY like a girl. His name is Stav Strashko. Google him, you'll be knocked off your socks. He looks so much like Keira Knightley, it's creepy.

Changes probably depend a lot on how your body produces testosterone and other hormones. Certainly a lot of males masculinize quite a lot after 25, but it didn't really happen so much to me. My Adam's apple and my hairline are about it for me and I had those by 21. I've always been naturally thin an unmuscular, though.

Stav Strashko is one of what seems to be an endless stream of amazing andro-fem male models working in Moscow these days. He's a little younger than Andrej. He just turned 18 awhile back and he's planning to start college soon, but I hope he continues modeling. He really is quite beautiful, especially since his hair has gotten very long.

Quote from: kira21 ♡♡♡ on March 05, 2014, 04:12:34 AMFor example, they refer to Andrej as she and state, that 'she' prefers to be referred to as female and 'has a female soul'.

Andrej has stated in an interview that she prefers to be referred to with feminine pronouns. Obviously she gets it both ways all the time, though. She also uses the ladies room.

"Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life." - Steve Jobs
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Bubblegum

Quote from: Lyric on March 05, 2014, 09:23:14 AM
Changes probably depend a lot on how your body produces testosterone and other hormones. Certainly a lot of males masculinize quite a lot after 25, but it didn't really happen so much to me. My Adam's apple and my hairline are about it for me and I had those by 21. I've always been naturally thin an unmuscular, though.



I'm quiet thin too, however the thing that's the biggest thing for me, is the Jaw and the nose. While I can probsbly learn to live with my nose (or maybe undergo surgery at a certain point) the jaw gets me going. I already find mine to be too heavy for my face, but it's never been really broad or anything, just quiet sharp. But I know this guy and he always had a very delicate jaw. He didn't look feminine though, he really looked like a man's man, just his jaw wasn't very wide. It was sharp and angular, yes, but not necessarily very broad. Quiet small framed actually. Now I've seen him again a few years later, he's now pushing thirty or maybe a little over it and his jaw got REALLY wide. Almost Brad Pitt or Ashton Kutcher like.
Are antiandrogens even able to prevent things like that?
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FalseHybridPrincess

Yes AA can prevent that but living without testosterone can cause a lot of issues in your health...
you have to replace it with somethin...


But yeah its true, the older you get the more masculine you become...

ok YMMV
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Rena

Quote from: Lyric on June 06, 2013, 11:33:45 AM
I follow Andrej's stuff almost weekly and when I saw that photo I knew a thread like this was going to come up here. I've suspected for some time that he was probably on androgen blockers at least. His feminine appearance is quite striking and he's expressed in interviews that he "isn't very sexual"-- an extremely rare trait for a male in his early 20s. These new photos show definite breast growth, though. As a male of about Andrej's frame and size myself, I can say there's no way a pair of pointers like that can appear without some help. It is possible to get something with suction devices, but these look hormonal to me.

I personally think Andrej Pejic's popularity is doing an amazing amount of good for the public image of androgynous and transgender people. Growing breasts won't hinder that at all. Maybe he'll finally score a Victoria's Secrets contract.  ;)

~ Lyric ~

Ever heard of mild gynecomastia? I have a chest just like Andrej's and I take no hormones.
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Jamie D

The Mayo Clinic writes:

Gynecomastia is triggered by a decrease in the amount of the hormone testosterone compared with estrogen. The cause of this decrease can be conditions that block the effects of or reduce testosterone or a condition that increases your estrogen level.
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