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Drinking as an alternative to suicide.

Started by Isabelle, June 11, 2013, 04:51:33 AM

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Isabelle

Like the title says. Thoughts?
Personally, it works for me.
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Cindy

As a person who tried the slow death may I suggest living is a hell of a lot better.

Drink, drugs, suicide are avoiding the happiness you can have and what you deserve to have.

Drink solves nothing.

Help does.

Many TG live in the bottle, once I got out I found ways of dealing with it all.

It is a lot more fun living than dying
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kelly_aus

Having just watched someone suffer through and die from end-stage liver disease, please don't.
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Sammy

You mean drinking with a view to facilitate Your sooner death or as some sort of oblivion from the dysphoria? If former, may I kindly suggest using heavy drugs instead, because albeit expensive, they will work sooner. On a more serious note, drinking does not help You to forget anything - in fact, when being in deep state of depression/sadness alcohol will only sharpen Your senses. As for oblivion, I would rather suggest to try some forms of escapism, which would play with other hormones in Your body - adrenaline and dopamine namely. Dopamine being the hormone of happiness really works and it is produced after hard work-outs, and afterwards You are so tired that You sort of have no more energy left to be dysphoric, As regards adrenaline, it works similarly, plus those activities will greatly contribute to Your inner drive towards self-destruction. You know they say, if at first You dont succeed then skydiving is not for You..  All those activities like free-running, parachute jumping, paragliding, cliff-hanging etc... You might look into them, just try not to get Yourself crippled...
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Jamie D

I see drinking as a form of self-medication.  And, when I was younger, I drank when I was the most confused about myself.
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Jen-from-IL

Drinking to excess is basically suicide, just a slower way of doing so. Been there, done that. Quit for over 10 years before I found that I could have a glass of wine and not feel that I needed another.
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Nicolette

Totally, it is suicide, albeit a slow crippling one, where looks and health are inexorably and irreversibly destroyed. I never understood alcohol. Even in my darkest moments I never touched it. My dad drank at least a bottle of wine a day, supplemented with whatever spirits. I look to him as a kindly reminder of its benefits.
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big kim

I got drunk to blot out the gender dysphoria and was a heavy drinker.As I got older my tolerance to alcohol rapidly diminished,I can enjoy a glass of wine or cider and appreciate the taste now,one's plenty for me these days.
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muuu

#8
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suzifrommd

Isabelle, that's a false choice. There's a third choice, to nurse yourself to health. It's much harder and more complicated than the other two but the rewards are considerable.
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Cassandra Hyacinth

I rarely ever drink alcohol, and if I do it'll generally be maybe one glass of wine. IDK, it just doesn't feel all that great when you do drink a lot - temporary erectile dysfunction is a plus, but given that your depression and sense of dread is massively heightened during inebriation, it's really not worth it for me.

In fact, that's pretty much the one thing I console myself with - even if my life in general is a bit of an epic fail right now, I can say 'At least I'm not dependent on alcohol, cigarettes or other drugs' and feel slightly more confident.

Also, from a pragmatic point of view - talk about expensive! I'd rather have some cola.
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Beth Andrea

Drinking in moderation can add to certain aspects of life (wine tends to make me hornier, for example). Suicide in moderation...well that doesn't work so well.

So there is no real comparison, imho.

Heavy drinking will slowly kill, so that is a form of suicide...and even if it doesn't kill, as several here have mentioned, it takes away the genuine happiness of life. If you're blitzed, often you won't have memories...which (imho) is a living form of death.

Hope this helps.

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Keira

Personally, my drugs of choice were cigarettes and energy drinks. But I used them to get through bad depression spells I knew I couldn't otherwise get through. All the while hoping I would just drop dead from a heart attack induced by nicotine and caffeine.

The only reason I started doing this was because 1) I knew I could stop 2) I didn't care what happened and 3) It was better than suicide.
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Reagan

So an incredibly slow and extremely painful death sounds appealing to you? To me it just sounds selfish to destroy your body and to give up. I'm not sure why exactly you feel that killing yourself is the answer, but dead is dead you can't undo it. You only get one life and it is up to you to make the best of it. If you are otherwise healthy to me is sounds silly to destroy yourself. I truly am sorry you feel this way, but maybe you should consider that what if you get half way through the process and decide you want to live or fail in the process. Then you have destroyed your body and mind and you could be dependent on someones care for the rest of your life. I really hope that you consider to get healthy and take care of yourself. Our lives are not the most desirable and some of the situations and experiences we go through suck really bad, but as my mother always tells me what doesn't kill you makes you stronger! You are ultimately responsible for your own happiness. I wish you all the best and hope that you find the peace and comfort in something in your life to make you consider not killing yourself.

We really don't want to lose another sister. We all know how it feels and things do get better. An exercise I have done that has helped is I have made lists of things in my life that make me feel good. Things like accomplishments, things people have said to me important people in my life and things I have overcome that I'm very proud of. So in times of despair I look back on my lists and see that things are all not that bad. Usually this brings me out of it and I'm able to move past the dark feelings. Hang in there and take care of yourself. Like I said you only get one life... Don't just throw it away!


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Jess42

I think that when a person does anything over excessive amounts to dull mental anguish is not a good thing and will only lead you down darker paths. If you drink it should be used a social lubricant and to have fun but not so much drinking that you are wanting to fight everyone else in your proximity. When you self medicate all you are doing is numbing your mind to the problems that you feel you have and when the numbness wears off, those same "problems" will still be there. The longer you go without adressing those problems the worst they will get and the more frequently you will have to numb them. It then becomes a viscious cycle and pretty much you become reliant on the drug of your choice whether it is alcohol, prescription drugs or illegal drugs.

If you are feeling suicidal, call a hot line, see a therapist, psychiatrist or just confide in a friend or anonomously on the internet. This may make you feel better and allow you to see other options that you have available.

No, I don't think that self medication is an alternative to suicide. As a matter of fact if it goes on long enough it is suicide.
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Eva Marie

A friend referred to drinking as "suicide on the installment plan".

I'm guilty of it as well. I'm hoping that my new therapist can help me with the feelings that caused me to start many years ago. And i also hope that I haven't rotted my liver out.
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King Malachite

In my opinion, drinking in excess is suicide.  That drinking money could be used for other things.  Plus your body will pay a physical price for it.  The only person who wins in the end is the doctor making money all the health illnesses.
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Joanna Dark

Didn't you just get out of a long-term relationship if I'm not mistaken? Maybe I am. I know this won't make you feel better but I have been there and I used to drink a lot (a whole lot) and one day I was going to kill myself and the day came and I planned to do it and stood there all hungover and obviously I didn't do it. I didn't stop drinking though. In fact I probably drank more. The point is drinking really isn't suicide and I thought it was. If it keeps you alive I think that is much better then death. Ans it accomplished that for me. Of course it can kill you and the heartbreak does go away. If I can get over heartbreak, anyone can. It just takes time. This might not be a popular opinion but it is a realistic one. One day I just stopped. I don't know why.
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vegie271



Basically it is not possible for me to get drunk enough to feel better, temporary solution, any drug will only hurt worse. You can alleviate the Pain even with something like hard street drugs they are even more expensive and even harder on your system but again they are temporary and don't fix the pain. Plus there are always the after effects  :'(

Better to deal with what is going on, therapy works better.

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