Thought Experiment: Body Swap

[stavraki]

I would do this in a heartbeat as medical science cannot allow me to give birth, although if medical science was advanced enough to perform this procedure then it would probably be advanced enough to allow me to transition & have children.

Due to my health problems however I doubt anyone would be crazy enough to want my body, my only hope for this would be to have a clone created, this would then allow me to have my genetic faults rectified. It would also mean that I could be transferred into my new body at a younger age to reclaim the "lost" years.

My hopes that our medical sciences advance to give you all you would ever hope for--and that company, kindness, appreciation, and support of others helps get you through in the meantime.

Kind Regards
stav

[A]

Transferring to clones can't do. Ethically it's a disaster, so I doubt any sane person would authorize it. If science allows to live forever (which would obviously be the first use of the technology), then it means humanity needs to stop breeding or it will overpopulate the planet to a critical point, and it also means that we would deem ourselves the ultimate, final generation of humans, who would live forever. By what right?

(Sorry, one of the more interesting parts of my philosophy class.)

[mikaelmackison]

In a purely hypothetical sense, it could be an interesting experiment.  Would I want to stay that way?  Goodness, no!   

First and foremost, I am a parent.  I am a husband in a loving and respectful marriage.  Additionally, I have forged a mutual tolerance with many of my family members out of the ashes of my former life.  I put my body through #e!! getting to where I am & I am proud of every last scar.  They are my visible memories, a road map of where I have been.

There are still parts of my anatomy that I wish to change but I'm not willing to pay the cost required to receive instant gratification.

[stavraki]

In a purely hypothetical sense, it could be an interesting experiment.  Would I want to stay that way?  Goodness, no!   

First and foremost, I am a parent.  I am a husband in a loving and respectful marriage.  Additionally, I have forged a mutual tolerance with many of my family members out of the ashes of my former life.  I put my body through #e!! getting to where I am & I am proud of every last scar.  They are my visible memories, a road map of where I have been.

There are still parts of my anatomy that I wish to change but I'm not willing to pay the cost required to receive instant gratification.

I loved this post

I'm getting MDL surgery to repair me in 3 weeks (OMG I am anxious in bursts).  And, am going to get tattoos to cover the god almighty scar I'll be left with down the side--for the road map of my life, as I found hope from tragedy, and established new equilibrium in my family relationships.

cheers
stav

[jackofspades]

I would absolutely say yes. I already feel a disconnect with people anyway, so picking up a new group of friends and family would be no real loss.

^ My feelings too.

Although the two family members I have I'd stay in touch with.

[Christine Eryn]

I think about this A LOT. I would swap with a GG even if I knew she was going to live only 2 more days, so that I would know the happiness that's always eluded me. I had this thought just today in fact.

I saw a FTM the other day at a doctor I go to who specializes in transgenders. He was only distinguishable to other TGs I think, as I spotted him right away. He seemed like a pretty rugged guy with facial hair and a voice deeper than mine. I thought, if only we could go back and swap brains somehow. Hopefully it was easier for him than it is for me.

I also have the thought: to be the woman I think I should be right this very second, I would give up everything I owned or would own, and walk away from all family and friends I ever knew forever. As old as I am it would "wipe away" any time I've lost. I've been on this road long enough and have tough times ahead with FFS, legal changes, etc. So if something scientific came along like a body swap, I'd be the first in line.

[vegie271]

I have talked with different FtM's since 1987 in most discussions we agreed if we had each met before or early in HRT and it had been possible to do the swap we would have donit isn a second, not one of us had a hesitation.

and one of my FtM friends had Lupus - I still would have done it

[Emmaline]

For me, no, I would not swap to another persons body.  I would press the old 'instant woman' button, but not swap into a new body.
If I could swap into a vat grown clone of myself genetically the same but fully female, yes I would.

[Yukari-sensei]

I just could not bring myself to do it. I mean despite the fact I could finally be the woman I feel myself to be, it still would not be me. I have my mother's eyes, looking into the mirror and never seeing that connection to her would be even more hearbreaking. It would be completely severing the connection to my family and past; like I would be denying myself in the pursuit of the correct gender.

In short, I would be trading one wrong body for another. If I'm going to be a woman, to quote Sammy Davis Jr., "I gotta be me!"

[vegie271]

I have talked with different FtM's since 1987 in most discussions we agreed if we had each met before or early in HRT and it had been possible to do the swap we would have donit isn a second, not one of us had a hesitation.

and one of my FtM friends had Lupus - I still would have done it

I would consider it if there was:
1.Extensive background checks and medical tests on both parties to ensure you are not becoming a wanted person or someone that will die in 3 weeks and
2.The ability to back out of the deal by either party and swap back if unhappy, sort of a buyers remorse policy, give it 90 days or something.

notice just how different our requirements are - I am pretty desperate - I really want this - I would actually put up with anything

[vegie271]

I wouldn't say that from this you were more desperate than I am.  I would much rather be myself and work through the steps needed to be able to do that than to take the risk of getting into something that may end up not solving the issue at hand or possibly adding extra identity issues or problems that I don't necessarily have to deal with if I go the usual route.

but see - that is it - I ALREADY feel I am in the wrong body - any body that is female is going to be better than this one 

[Heather]

When I was younger I thought this would be great. But as I get older I realize I wouldn't do it! My body may not be perfectly feminine but it's my body and I take good care of it. I've noticed most of my friends my age are having health problems I'm not having. I'm very lucky in that regard. So I would stick with this body it may be male but it's been good to this girl. 

[Natkat]

me and one of my friends have already thought that idea for long ago as we almost are the same age and time on homones.
I wouldn't like to shift life with her in 100 of years, it just dosen't seams as something for me. if we only speak bodys then I have consider it but honestly I Like my body pretty well. I am normal size white got blue/gray eyes, and she is small asian and with black hair and eyes.

She wasnt badlooking before transition but still I I think it would be very wierd to change look and race complitely and I do not dislike my look so I guess I go with no, so far, but maybe if it had been someone who looked more simmular to my current look and I liked the general body and so on? 

[iamconfused]

yeah i would be so much happier if that were possible.. not if it was an obese person's body though.. i'd have to have a fast metabolism so i can just sit on my ass all day and eat like i do now

[vegie271]

yeah i would be so much happier if that were possible.. not if it was an obese person's body though.. i'd have to have a fast metabolism so i can just sit on my ass all day and eat like i do now

oh no - I would really rather an active life if I had the choice - I am sick of sitting around all the time - I despise feeling useless

[Sephirah]

No.

For the simple reason that I wouldn't wish for anyone else to suffer by being in my body.

[Dreams2014]

I'd do it. Then I'd feel legitimately physically female rather than a male seeking to transform my own body to that of a female.

The body is just a car. You can modify the car in various ways. If the car gets damaged then unless the damage is terminal, you can fix it.

The brain is the driver, and that is really the only important part. So would I (the driver) allow myself to be put into a better car that is more to my tastes? Absolutely yes.

[WFane]

My friend who is ftm and I would trade bodies in a heartbeat! We are both healthy and active!

[MadeleineG]

No. Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

[Ciara]

If I did not have my wife and kids to consider then I would do it without a thought or a regret. It would fulfill everything I dreamed of.