this question might get me in trouble lol

[jessicas37]

How do they achieve hairless neck/shoulders/upper chest?

Chest is the easiest, here is what I did ymmv.

1. duct tape start just below armpit on one side pull hard toward center, take other side of chest and push up towards center then with other hand put tape over following to other armpit. this will give you and ample cleavage look. now get a bra with 1 band size smaller then what you would normally wear ie I wear 46C so If I am going for a cleavage night out I will wear a 44C it is tight and sometimes hard to breathe but beauty is pain(as betty white said "Why grow a pair of balls, they are weak and fragile. Grow a vagina, they can take a pounding."). Don't use push up bras as they will make ur duct tape mounds look to fake use a regular non wire old school walmart bra.

2. Always shave with ice cubes. Take handful of ice cube or a FREEZING cold shower and shave then. hot water relaxs skin and makes hair lie down something about the really cold makes the hair stand up and you get a closer shave.

3. If you have "man hands" bracelets are your best friends maybe even a watch...in public have a subtle French tip mani nothing outrageous you want a glance not a stare at your fingures. On stage go crazy dollar general press ons with a ton of super glue are your best friend

[Devlyn]

 

All right, that's enough of that. This site is set up to provide support for ALL transgender people, and that includes Drag Kings and Queens. There's nothing supportive about being told you creep someone out. There is plenty of disrespect from outside our community, there shouldn't be any from within. Here is our site mission:

Every one is welcome at Susan's Place provided you follow a few basic rules: This site is an open support area, and is not generally sexually oriented. The purpose of this site is to provide peer support, and to provide a forum for the discussion of issues related to gender and may include Transsexualism, Transvestism, Crossdressing, or other related topics. This web site exists to offer constructive input and support. 

A few rules to keep in mind:

9. If you disagree with transgender individuals, or activities which cross gender boundaries take your arguments to a more appropriate web site.

10. Bashing or flaming of any individuals or groups is not acceptable behavior on this web site and will not be tolerated in the slightest for any reason.  This includes but is not limited to:Advocating the separation or exclusion of one or more group from under the Transgender umbrella termSuggesting or claiming that one segment or sub-segment of our community is more legitimate, deserving, or more real than any others

I will take this opportunity to apologize to anyone who is, or was offended by the posts in this thread.

[kariann330]

All right, that's enough of that. This site is set up to provide support for ALL transgender people, and that includes Drag Kings and Queens. There's nothing supportive about being told you creep someone out. There is plenty of disrespect from outside our community, there shouldn't be any from within. Here is our site mission:

Every one is welcome at Susan's Place provided you follow a few basic rules: This site is an open support area, and is not generally sexually oriented. The purpose of this site is to provide peer support, and to provide a forum for the discussion of issues related to gender and may include Transsexualism, Transvestism, Crossdressing, or other related topics. This web site exists to offer constructive input and support.

A few rules to keep in mind:

9. If you disagree with transgender individuals, or activities which cross gender boundaries take your arguments to a more appropriate web site.

10. Bashing or flaming of any individuals or groups is not acceptable behavior on this web site and will not be tolerated in the slightest for any reason.  This includes but is not limited to:Advocating the separation or exclusion of one or more group from under the Transgender umbrella termSuggesting or claiming that one segment or sub-segment of our community is more legitimate, deserving, or more real than any others

I will take this opportunity to apologize to anyone who is, or was offended by the posts in this thread.

Only thing that offended me was the "homo bar" comment but my phone died before i could hit report, but since you already got on that person for the rest of there post ill politely tip my hat and bid you good day....sorry im in a goofy mood lol

[Joanna Dark]

Can you still do drag if you look like a woman? I'm pretty petite at 5'5 (I was 5'6) and 134 lbs but I'm still MAAB and trans so I feel like I should be able to but IDK. It seems like a fun way to finance my transition and at the same time meet all types of fun, awesome people. Can hormonally transitioning peoples do drag or no?

BTW Mandy you look fabulous in that pic!

[Corwynn Jade]

first, i agree mandy, you look great in that picture.

ok, and yes transitioning folks fit just fine into drag shows. i was just at one last week and one if the queens looked like she was born and raised a woman. She was a great success with the crowd. She did a comedy piece, which drove her point home, but i don't think you'd have to. also, if you have reached the point in your transition where you can't pass for your birth sex any longer, some people find it fun to reverse crossdress and do shows as drag kings instead, but i think that is one of those love it or leave it things. It could work in your favor though for people to see it like you always did, a woman playing a man

[addendum: i realized after posting this that i don't know your story, and its wrong of me to make assumptions. i'm sorry if i was off track]

[Joanna Dark]

first, i agree mandy, you look great in that picture.

ok, and yes transitioning folks fit just fine into drag shows. i was just at one last week and one if the queens looked like she was born and raised a woman. She was a great success with the crowd. She did a comedy piece, which drove her point home, but i don't think you'd have to. also, if you have reached the point in your transition where you can't pass for your birth sex any longer, some people find it fun to reverse crossdress and do shows as drag kings instead, but i think that is one of those love it or leave it things. It could work in your favor though for people to see it like you always did, a woman playing a man

[addendum: i realized after posting this that i don't know your story, and its wrong of me to make assumptions. i'm sorry if i was off track]

You got it completely right! I didn't feel like you were making any assumptions whatsoever. What assumptions did you think you were making? Sorry I'm too curious lol you don't have to say if you don't want to, obviously.

[jessicas37]

first, i agree mandy, you look great in that picture.

ok, and yes transitioning folks fit just fine into drag shows. i was just at one last week and one if the queens looked like she was born and raised a woman. She was a great success with the crowd. She did a comedy piece, which drove her point home, but i don't think you'd have to. also, if you have reached the point in your transition where you can't pass for your birth sex any longer, some people find it fun to reverse crossdress and do shows as drag kings instead, but i think that is one of those love it or leave it things. It could work in your favor though for people to see it like you always did, a woman playing a man

[addendum: i realized after posting this that i don't know your story, and its wrong of me to make assumptions. i'm sorry if i was off track]

Can you still do drag if you look like a woman? I'm pretty petite at 5'5 (I was 5'6) and 134 lbs but I'm still MAAB and trans so I feel like I should be able to but IDK. It seems like a fun way to finance my transition and at the same time meet all types of fun, awesome people. Can hormonally transitioning peoples do drag or no?

BTW Mandy you look fabulous in that pic!

Thank you so much for those comments it makes me smile ear to ear :-) , doing shows has been my achillies heel for quit sometime now. Besides the fact that I can deffinatly use the money and a good entertainer will make $150-$200 on a slow night, I have been been dealing with the stigma of everyone knowing me as a queen. Once you get that queen label it is almost impossible to shake off.  that pic was before any hrt before any sort of transition if you read my blog on here "Locked out Heaven" that was actually my first show ever. If going into this and you already appear feminine then please start off performing as a diva and tell as few as people as possible if any about trans status.  If you are like me and a lesbian once you get the title of queen you are considered a gay male in 99% of peoples eyes and it is impossible to break that misconception. I basically had to stop going to the bar I loved to hang out and perform in due to the fact I would always always get the comment "You like girls???" they just assumed I only like men and it was a lesbian bar.

[Shantel]

If you are like me and a lesbian once you get the title of queen you are considered a gay male in 99% of peoples eyes and it is impossible to break that misconception. I basically had to stop going to the bar I loved to hang out and perform in due to the fact I would always always get the comment "You like girls???" they just assumed I only like men and it was a lesbian bar.

You can always count on something to put a damper on a good thing huh Mandy? I think you're terrific hon, you're giving a few gals with limited income something decent to consider rather than resorting to porn or street sex for SRS money like we know happens.

[kariann330]

I know I'm kicking my own butt right now for living out in BFE. If i were to go to a bar or club i would have at least an hour drive if not longer...each way.

[A]

Dunno, I'm not sure it would do. For one, it's sort of "cheating" because typically a drag queen isn't trans. And it might not be as entertaining, because as far as I know, a drag-queen is entertaining because he (because yeah, in normally a drag-queen is a he) walks the line between feminity and masculinity and crosses it back and forth. For example, once, my sister brought me to a drag queen cabaret, and to the people present, it seemed that the entertainment was half from seeing a sexy-looking girl speak like a guy and flirt, and half from the comical content.

Oh yeah, and also... Normally a drag-queen is male. If do drag shows, people will see you as a guy who crossdresses for fun/profit. Do you really want that?

[kariann330]

Dunno, I'm not sure it would do. For one, it's sort of "cheating" because typically a drag queen isn't trans. And it might not be as entertaining, because as far as I know, a drag-queen is entertaining because he (because yeah, in normally a drag-queen is a he) walks the line between feminity and masculinity and crosses it back and forth. For example, once, my sister brought me to a drag queen cabaret, and to the people present, it seemed that the entertainment was half from seeing a sexy-looking girl speak like a guy and flirt, and half from the comical content.

Oh yeah, and also... Normally a drag-queen is male. If do drag shows, people will see you as a guy who crossdresses for fun/profit. Do you really want that?

That stigma is a lot better then being a disabled 28yr old republican with a southern drawl livin north of the Masson Dixon line. Because of the TOS i can't say about half of what i get called when someone sees my Chevy 2500HD (6in suspension lift, 4 inches body lift, 22.5in mud tires, camouflage running boards, dual 6in smoke stacks and a brush/push guard up front with a diesel under the hood) let alone when i open my mouth lol.

[Joanna Dark]

Dunno, I'm not sure it would do. For one, it's sort of "cheating" because typically a drag queen isn't trans. And it might not be as entertaining, because as far as I know, a drag-queen is entertaining because he (because yeah, in normally a drag-queen is a he) walks the line between feminity and masculinity and crosses it back and forth. For example, once, my sister brought me to a drag queen cabaret, and to the people present, it seemed that the entertainment was half from seeing a sexy-looking girl speak like a guy and flirt, and half from the comical content.

Oh yeah, and also... Normally a drag-queen is male. If do drag shows, people will see you as a guy who crossdresses for fun/profit. Do you really want that?

This is kinda what I thought. And normally I wouldn't care what people thought of me but if I became close to the people there I would want to be seen as either female or trans female. But yeah I don't even know what I would do onstage if I did it and being on HRT prolly is a lil like cheating and people would be like why is a woman doing drag. But maybe not? Maybe I could be the world's prettiest drag queen. I would only do it to finance transition kinda like that movie Flawless.