is it possible..?

[Soren]

BECAUSE you are spouting nonsense and truly did lead Jossef on to believe this was the answer to all his issues and it's not even close.  It's false hope and you kept trying to say that this method had the same effects as T and that levels would be the same as if taking T and it was all flat out misinformation.
GID would not affect whether someone can carry out a job.

I said it gives physical changes, just as T does. Any mention of T levels was done with a "presumably" in front of it.
I have said on many, many occasions that it is not as strong, nor does it work as quickly as T. I have also made no mentions of it working for anyone other than me. If he wishes more information on the matter, I will tell him. I, however, will not start explaining the functions at a molecular level. There are publish studies that already do that. A librarian is not an encyclopedia, it is a person that shows you which encyclopedia you will find the information you seek in.

And thank you for the complement of assuming that gender dysphoria is the only thing wrong with me. I appreciate it.

[Soren]

There are tons of trans people working and even some getting hired. I think it's a bit drastic to say that getting on T and seeing a therapist will keep you from getting employed EVER. I dont think that's true.

I know. In my case it would be a combination of everything else they would choose to diagnose me with that would prevent me from getting hired.

[zombieinc]

And I have no intention of seeing a therapist, which I believe is how you get a prescription, no? I already have enough things keeping me from getting hired, I don't need another one.

This may be true. I say may because I have heard/read of people getting prescriptions with only minimal therapy instead of the traditional 3mo-1 year window that a lot of people tend to go through. Some therapy is required, but the length and type of therapist is really unique to the person's situation. I was unsure if this was the case for you or not, which is why I asked.

They do background searches on your SSN, if you have a diagnosed mental disorder, it'll show up. Most small places with entry-level jobs (where I can actual apply to) hold the right to fire anyone for no reason with no warning.

It is true that many employers do background searches on your SSN. However, it's not the mental disorder that will slay you, it will be gender discrepancies between your old records and your new ones, insofar as new ones with your updated gender info exist. This only becomes an issue after your legal transition and not before. So if you haven't legally transitioned, you should be ok to get a job using your old info without having to worry.

I'm not sure about the whole mental disorders showing up on your background check. I'm disinclined to believe it, mostly because the majority, if not all, of your medical records will be sealed. I know this was the case for both of the therapists that I have seen since becoming an adult. Some of your medical records are public, but none of your medical records (to my knowledge) can be used against you when it comes to securing employment.

I also found this by doing a quick (not exhaustive) search on my search engine of choice:
'    Medical records. In California and many states, medical records are confidential. There are only a few instances when a medical record can be released without your knowledge or authorization. The FCRA also requires your specific permission for the release of medical records. If employers require physical examinations after they make a job offer, they will have access to the results. The Americans with Disabilities Act allows a potential employer to inquire only about your ability to perform specific job functions. (42 USC §12101) -- https://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs16-bck.htm << original document, https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/12101 << Cornell University Law Library Listing, as it pertains to the Americans with Disabilities Act, which set the precedent for access to medical records during the course of the job securing process

There are other questions such as age, marital status, and certain psychological tests that employers cannot use when interviewing...."

I think that this sums up your medical records = ice cube's chance in hell of securing employment issue.

An employer is usually not able to access your medical records for any reason unless you are injured on the job, test positive for certain drugs during a drug screen, have a company doctor perform a physical or psych eval on the job, etc. Now, if you're taking hormones and you happen to drop dirty due to their drug testing protocol testing for positive for steroids, ok, you would have to come clean and provide proof that you have a prescription for T or whatever androgen or anabolic steroid that you are on. In that case, they'd have to throw out your results and it wouldn't effect your chances of being hired or fired or otherwise maintaining your employment, as it would be a strong case for medical discrimination.

Now...back to our regularly scheduled programming...

Does NT work? The jury is still out. Use discernment. Be cautious.

[Jack_M]

I said it raises them to about the same as T.

Look.  There it is.  Plain as day.  You claimed it, it was false.  That's why I stepped in because you were taking it too far.

As for mental health - you really are misinformed here.  Give up the T research and instead do employee background check research and then you'll know that you can just go to a therapist and get actual T.

Schizophrenics don't even have to disclose that they have any issues, and unless they actually tell their employer, or have an episode in the work place, it's not known. 

Short of a court order, or you giving permission, employers can't see your medical files.

Zombieinc covers the rest.

[V M]

Okay friends 

That's enough personal attacks and arguing about in circles

Find something constructive to do with yourselves

Topic locked

Thank you

V M