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Started by NoIntentions, July 04, 2013, 10:42:42 PM

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NoIntentions

Could you get away with being in the army and trans? I know many lesbians who are pretty manly and now that gay people are aloud you think someone trans could pass?
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Soren

If it's the US, I don't think you're even allowed to join.
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kaiju

Not in the US army. Any indication of being trans will get you discharged. You can be gay, but you can't be trans.
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NoIntentions

I know a couple few transmen In the army who are on hormones and have mustaches, how is that?
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Jamison

You can't join if your diagnosed with GID, taking hormones, or have had any surgery- period. If you start identifying as trans while already in the military, they won't kick you out unless any of the following already listed happens. This is only US policy though. In Canada and other countries it is different.
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Nygeel

You can't. It's especially dangerous if you know you're trans and are granted a security clearance (since you lied in order to get that clearance). Well, at least in the US it is.
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Catalina

Sorry to park my butt into the men's room!  :icon_mrhappy:

In Canada, if you are pre-transitioning, yes you can. If you do end up being diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria while in the military, they can actually help with financing your transition.

If you are still transitioning, then it is a grey area, especially from this article: http://www.ctvnews.ca/transgendered-canadian-soldiers-fall-into-grey-zone-1.446755

If you are post-operation, then again, of course!

PS: Please only join the Canadian military forces if you are interested in protecting our country - I am sure they can weed people out who only desire to take advantage of the system rather than the honest pursuance of a most noble career!  :icon_neutral:
"Live fully, love wastefully, and be all that you can be."
-- Bishop Spong
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randomroads

I joined the US Army because I was about to be homeless and I was starving. They put a roof over my head, gave me a job to earn money, and fed me three times a day. The vast majority of people I worked with were in the Army because it was a way to make money and support family or they wanted to have decent healthcare and the promise of paid college when they finished their contract. I'd dare say the people who were in it for the 'glory and honor' aspect were obnoxious to the rest of us who just wanted to get on with life and earn a living. The folks who took it way too seriously often hindered the job being done the right way, the first time.

That goes for coworkers and management in ANY job. The military might be there to protect a country and it's allies, but it's really 'just another job' that needs to get done.
I believe in invisible pink unicorns

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Catalina

Quote from: randomroads on July 05, 2013, 02:12:12 PM
I joined the US Army because I was about to be homeless and I was starving. They put a roof over my head, gave me a job to earn money, and fed me three times a day. The vast majority of people I worked with were in the Army because it was a way to make money and support family or they wanted to have decent healthcare and the promise of paid college when they finished their contract. I'd dare say the people who were in it for the 'glory and honor' aspect were obnoxious to the rest of us who just wanted to get on with life and earn a living. The folks who took it way too seriously often hindered the job being done the right way, the first time.

That goes for coworkers and management in ANY job. The military might be there to protect a country and it's allies, but it's really 'just another job' that needs to get done.

I suppose that I have a little bit of pridefulness in me :P ... I have two members of my family as part of the forces as a noble career, and now my youngest brother is also considering it.
"Live fully, love wastefully, and be all that you can be."
-- Bishop Spong
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Devlyn

Quote from: Rahel on July 05, 2013, 11:33:24 PM
I suppose that I have a little bit of pridefulness in me :P ... I have two members of my family as part of the forces as a noble career, and now my youngest brother is also considering it.

Military family, I like it!


Quote from: randomroads on July 05, 2013, 02:12:12 PM
I joined the US Army because I was about to be homeless and I was starving. They put a roof over my head, gave me a job to earn money, and fed me three times a day. The vast majority of people I worked with were in the Army because it was a way to make money and support family or they wanted to have decent healthcare and the promise of paid college when they finished their contract. I'd dare say the people who were in it for the 'glory and honor' aspect were obnoxious to the rest of us who just wanted to get on with life and earn a living. The folks who took it way too seriously often hindered the job being done the right way, the first time.

That goes for coworkers and management in ANY job. The military might be there to protect a country and it's allies, but it's really 'just another job' that needs to get done.

Randomroads, thank you for your service. What MOS are/were you? I was a 16P, Chaparral missile, a heatseeker.
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randomroads

14E, PATRIOT missile system fire control. I enjoyed the job, even though everything I learned isn't applicable to 'real life.' The radar system and computers are almost as old as I am. I'm very glad not to be in the service anymore, since many people that I was in with are over in South Korea pointing at the DMZ.
I believe in invisible pink unicorns

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Keaira

http://tfortea.wordpress.com/

You can ask this guy. ;)

As for me, I was RAF. a Sooty. But I left before they allowed GLBT people to serve. "DOH!"
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Devlyn

Quote from: randomroads on July 06, 2013, 02:10:05 AM
14E, PATRIOT missile system fire control. I enjoyed the job, even though everything I learned isn't applicable to 'real life.' The radar system and computers are almost as old as I am. I'm very glad not to be in the service anymore, since many people that I was in with are over in South Korea pointing at the DMZ.

I was the driver for the 108th Brigade Commander when the first Patriot sites were being built in Germany

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