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Post-Op Girls: What motivated your surgery?

Started by suzifrommd, July 14, 2013, 07:43:22 PM

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Post-Op Girls: What motivated your surgery? (You can choose as many as apply)

I hated my body.
I wanted an authentic female experience.
For the sexual opportunities.
I wouldn't feel like a woman, otherwise.
A health professional recommended it.
I couldn't stand life in my current body shape.
I wanted my body to be the correct shape
Other (tell us...)
I'm not a post-op girl but I wanted to see the results

Donna Elvira

I haven't yet done GRS but have already decided in principle, on my own, that it is something I will do, sooner rather than later. If I can get the necessary time off from work, it will almost certainly be within the next 12 months, maybe as early as next Jan or Feb.  I should have an answer from my employers by the end of August regarding the management of my period of absence.

The final deciding factor for me was feeling complete. I just couldn't see myself going forward in life, living as a woman with my ID saying I am a woman and still having those male bits constantly reminding me of my past.

Other than that, always pretty down to earth I think, I simply want to be able to do everything any other woman does, from saunas and massages to swimming without having to worry about my "appearance"  :)

Very simple finally but the surgery itself still scares all hell out of me!
Donna
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Northern Jane

Quote from: Vanessa C. on July 15, 2013, 08:54:57 AM
Wait, I'm kind of curious about something....It has been said that certain doctors/psychiatrists have recommended that some of you get the surgery? It is just kind of a contradiction to my own experience.

Not at all, at least not for me. I had been through a psychological assessment and the conclusion was that I was "remarkably sane and rational under the circumstances" and supported whatever decision I made. My doctor, on the other hand, knew I was not going to survive much longer and tried very hard to find a surgeon for me. He was not successful, despite contacting many surgeons, so when I came up with a surgeon, I had his full support in expediting everything. I was never "pushed" nor did anyone make a recommendation but I had their full support with my own (pre-made) decision.
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Agent_J

Freedom from gatekeeping. I had experience with heavy gatekeeping in my transition and being free from that was huge for me.
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Dahlia

Quote from: Tristan on July 15, 2013, 09:05:21 AM
I I have to say I think from 11 to now my doctors have made the best choices and given there honest opinions in my best interest,
but do know it's in my best interest since I have a track record of making poor choices so I know they are doing what's best.

*GASP*  ??? ??? ???
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Zumbagirl

What follows next are my own words and apply only to me. That being said, I had the surgery because I knew I should have been born a girl and to me a girl doesn't have a penis. Being post-op only proved that what I knew about myself was right.
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Cyndigurl45

Having ambiguous genitals my entire life it was more a correction to allow me to be the woman I know I am :-)
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MariaMx

For me the most important aspect of my transition was to be seen and treated by society as a woman (a cis one that is). My genitalia were never the focal point of it but still I wasn't very interested in having a penis. My result is fantastic and I love it so much, but before the operation I gave it very little thought. I had the day for my surgery checked off in my calender, and when the day came I hopped on the plane to Thailand and had the operation. FFS was what I was really excited about because that makes a big difference in every day life where as SRS make little difference.
"Of course!"
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Donna Elvira

Quote from: MariaMx on August 28, 2013, 12:03:24 PM
For me the most important aspect of my transition was to be seen and treated by society as a woman (a cis one that is). My genitalia were never the focal point of it but still I wasn't very interested in having a penis. My result is fantastic and I love it so much, but before the operation I gave it very little thought. I had the day for my surgery checked off in my calender, and when the day came I hopped on the plane to Thailand and had the operation. FFS was what I was really excited about because that makes a big difference in every day life where as SRS make little difference.

Totally on the same page. Initially getting my FFS done was far more important to me than GRS as that is the surgery that enabled my transition socially. However, now that this has been mostly achieved, GRS had moved up on the agenda far more than I would have imagined even a year ago. Unfortunately, for professional reasons it won't be before next July but I have a tentative agreement with my employers that this would be OK.
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calico

Quote from: Zumbagirl on August 28, 2013, 09:36:19 AM
What follows next are my own words and apply only to me. That being said, I had the surgery because I knew I should have been born a girl and to me a girl doesn't have a penis. Being post-op only proved that what I knew about myself was right.

direct and beautifully put, a lot of other peoples reasons could apply to me as well but this made me go yup aint that the truth  ;)
"To be one's self, and unafraid whether right or wrong, is more admirable than the easy cowardice of surrender to conformity."― Irving Wallace  "Before you can be anything, you have to be yourself. That's the hardest thing to find." -  E.L. Konigsburg
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Zumbagirl

Quote from: MariaMx on August 28, 2013, 12:03:24 PM
For me the most important aspect of my transition was to be seen and treated by society as a woman (a cis one that is). My genitalia were never the focal point of it but still I wasn't very interested in having a penis. My result is fantastic and I love it so much, but before the operation I gave it very little thought. I had the day for my surgery checked off in my calender, and when the day came I hopped on the plane to Thailand and had the operation. FFS was what I was really excited about because that makes a big difference in every day life where as SRS make little difference.

I definitely can understand your point of view. When I had FFS well there is no subtle way to hide things anymore. I could have a male ID that said chuck Norris but I'll still get ma'amed wherever I went. That was the point in my life when I started to like mirrors. All my life I had only seen a male face staring back at me in the mirror and now it was gone forever, in fact and I was in utter amazement at what I had accomplished. I couldn't believe it was me. It went a long ways towards my passability along with boatloads of electrolysis treatments.

When I had my SRS I told no one. I snuck out under cover of darkness and had it done. It was very important to me and to what my definition of me meant, but I treated it as a non event. I still planned it and saved up for it and did all the things that were required for the surgery but almost no one knew I had the surgery done.
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MariaMx

Quote from: Zumbagirl on September 01, 2013, 08:07:41 AM
I definitely can understand your point of view. When I had FFS well there is no subtle way to hide things anymore. I could have a male ID that said chuck Norris but I'll still get ma'amed wherever I went. That was the point in my life when I started to like mirrors. All my life I had only seen a male face staring back at me in the mirror and now it was gone forever, in fact and I was in utter amazement at what I had accomplished. I couldn't believe it was me. It went a long ways towards my passability along with boatloads of electrolysis treatments.

When I had my SRS I told no one. I snuck out under cover of darkness and had it done. It was very important to me and to what my definition of me meant, but I treated it as a non event. I still planned it and saved up for it and did all the things that were required for the surgery but almost no one knew I had the surgery done.
Yes, that's how it was, a non-event. It was never really about the genitalia from me. It was about having the life of a woman. Now, eventually that would certainly mean having SRS, but if I had to chose between having a vagina in my pants or passing as a cis-female I would pick the latter any day of the week.

I had SRS without blinking and without much about it thinking.
"Of course!"
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mrs izzy

I needed to fix the outside wrapping of what was not finished at birth.

Izzy
Mrs. Izzy
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"Those who matter will never judge, this is my given path to walk in life and you have no right to judge"

I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
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Kate G

Quote from: suzifrommd on July 14, 2013, 07:43:22 PM
I've begun thinking seriously about whether SRS is for me. I know I WANT it, but I'm not sure if that's a good enough reason. What motivated you to go ahead with your surgery?



I never believed that I would ever be accepted by anyone as female, instead I believed that the only chance I had in this life was to be accepted as a trans woman.  I also believed that neo vaginae were a lot different from what I considered at the time to be "real" vaginae.  I fell in love with a pre op woman when I was still closeted and trans phobic.  I didn't believe I was female, I believed I was someone who had been denied the opportunity of being female all my life and I was right.  It wasn't that I was afraid of trans women, I was afraid to transition and I was afraid of being female.  I believed that trans women had to limit themselves to being trans in order to be "safe", "sensible" and "sane".

My girlfriend of the time broke up on me.  I really loved her and I loved doing things for her.  She was the first person I had ever fallen in love with.  I remember how too early in the relationship she told me she loved me when her actions told me the exact opposite.  To her "love" was a sensation she felt and that was the extent of it for her.  For me I also felt love for her but the love I felt for her caused me to want to care for her, be there for her, do things for her, spend my hard earned money that I could have been using to transition on her.  All she cared about was herself and her transition.  I caught her cheating on me, I asked her if we had a monogamous relationship and she said that yes of course we did and that we had talked about it before.  We had never discussed it previously though but she assured me we did.  The thing was I knew she was cheating on me and it wasn't just that she was cheating on me she would cheat on me with anyone who would look twice at her.

Anyway... I wasn't exactly a Spring Chicken at the time but I had fallen in love for the first time in my life but really she had fooled me and what I was really in love with was the idea of being in love because as my therapist at the time assured me, my supposed girlfriend and I didn't even have a "relationship".  Another aspect of our "relationship" was that I believed that the only chance I ever had to transition would be if I sold my house and moved in with my "girlfriend" and started over.  I lived in a small city that was very conservative and ran my own business, self employed.  I believed if I transitioned where I was that I would experience terrible prejudice and loose my ability to support myself.

My girlfriend and I broke up.  She kept cheating on me and kept allowing me to catch her.  Really it was so cruel that it seemed like it had to be intentional but she was so selfish that she would tell me she needed these experiences to feel good about herself.  One day she just stopped answering the phone, stopped seeing me, except to allow me to help her move to a new apartment.  I was no longer able to spend weekends with her as a female and I was stuck in my home town living as a male.  It felt like a hole had been torn out of the center of me.  It was very real like I had lost my legs in an accident or something of that nature.  The loss I felt was profound and lasted for many years while I struggled against my fears to transition.

Eventually my bank decided to give me an increase on my home equity line of credit which was all I needed in order to have SRS surgery.  At the time I knew I would never go full-time but I thought that at least I could have a vagina and that would be something.  In a state of calm depression I went and had SRS and recovered from it but I found that it was much more difficult to continue to play a man now that I had a vagina and my vagina was awful.  It was hideous and asymmetrical.  There was so much scarring and loose skin on the outside that the skin hung off me in large tags or flaps and literally looked like a turkey neck but the joke was I also had Zero inner labia and Zero clitoral hooding.

Also Marci Bowers removed so much skin at the entrance to my vagina that it will always gape open and no surgery can replace what she took off me.  My clitoris was off to one side and so positioned so low that it connected to my urethra.  But the thing was my vagina allowed me to begin to have some experiences.  At the time in order to change paperwork one had to have the surgery so I was able to change all of my documents.  Also I had that experience of having sex with a guy who thought I had been born female which I wrote about previously, an experienced that allowed me to begin to believe in myself as a woman.

Remember how I talked about how to my girlfriend being in love was only a sensation she felt that never translated to how she treated me?  She was perfectly content to betray me and to cheat on me.  Well I have found that believing in one's self as female can be kind of like that, at least it was like that for me.  I would have been the first person in the world to assure you that I was female but before SRS, before having experiences that allowed me to begin to change on the inside, I would have been the first person to deny myself the very experiences that allowed me that change.  I would have made the choice to limit myself to being trans.  I would have been the person telling everyone that they absolutely had to "confess" to any sexual partner immediately.  But I was trans phobic.  I was afraid of allowing women who transitioned to be female.  I felt like to do so at the time would be to deceive people.

A long time ago I was taught in a bible study that the old Anglo Saxon word 'belief' was composed of two words, by lief or by life, by living.  Belief wasn't intended to be a "feeling" but rather how an individual acted in respect to ideas.  Now days we just assume that belief = ideas whereas in early Christian Society it meant a code of conduct.  My girlfriend believed that love = a sensation one felt.  I believed that belief = an idea.  We were both wrong.  Believing in yourself as a woman or as a man isn't an idea, it is how you treat yourself, it is the freedom that you allow yourself or regarding lack of belief it is the limitations you put upon yourself.  And the thing is you don't have to be able to pass as female to begin to believe in yourself.  All you really have to do is stop acting in accordance with the idea that you aren't a real woman assuming your core idea is that you are a woman or a female.

So to make a long story short I had SRS because I believed my life was over and I didn't know what else to do with myself but the experience allowed me to begin to find some true happiness, it created a platform where I was able to begin to experience myself as a woman and experience was the only thing that ever allowed me to be able to begin to believe in myself as female.  I feel that we tend to be a product of our experiences or that our experiences co create our consciousness.  But I also believe that many people allow fears to interfere with or to completely prevent that process.  SRS taught me that being a man or a woman isn't an idea, it's an experience and the funny part is when I tell people I transitioned I tend to prevent myself from having that experience though before I began to have the experience of being female I assumed that the experience of being a trans woman was the same.  Looking back that was my the Lady Doth Protest too Much factor though.  That was back when I wasn't having the experience of being female and instead I was using ideas and words to fill in the vacuum, the gap, the emptiness.  Back when I constantly had to explain to people I was female because it wasn't happening in real life and at that time words and ideas were the only way to convince myself that it was happening.  But it wasn't.  Before SRS, even during the best of times I felt like a female impersonator.  I never would have used those words to describe the experience I was having though because I was too busy trying to convince myself I was female.

SRS was for me a way to stop telling myself I was female because it is easier to listen to my body and my experiences than it was for me to do the daily affirmations thing in contradiction to my body and my experiences.

HOWEVER...  It wasn't SRS that allowed me to begin 'Believing' or by-living in myself.  SRS only created a platform for the experience of being female.  It was the experiences I began to allow myself after transition that changed how I believed or by-living-ed in myself and just as love can also incorporate a sensation, believing in myself allowed me to experience new ideas about myself.  New ideas about what is possible for someone who transitions.  New ideas like, "Women who transition can just be women."  If you allow yourself to have that experience you will begin to have that experience.  If I had read this post before I had SRS it probably wouldn't have meant anything to me.  It wasn't until I began having experiences after SRS that I began to understand this but I would like to imagine that most people are smarter and better at grasping the concept than I was.
"To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did." -Unknown
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snapfie

I believe for a mtf individual, if he is indeed a woman trapped in a man's body, he firmly hates the male tool down there and wants to have it modified the soonest possible. I myself went through this kind of agony before my SRS. Aside from SRS, I also have had my Breast Augmentation, Trachea Shave and Alarplasty. Now I'm planning to have FFS.
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snapfie

Quote from: MariaMx on August 28, 2013, 12:03:24 PM
For me the most important aspect of my transition was to be seen and treated by society as a woman (a cis one that is). My genitalia were never the focal point of it but still I wasn't very interested in having a penis. My result is fantastic and I love it so much, but before the operation I gave it very little thought. I had the day for my surgery checked off in my calender, and when the day came I hopped on the plane to Thailand and had the operation. FFS was what I was really excited about because that makes a big difference in every day life where as SRS make little difference.


Yes I agree with you totally, FFS makes much more difference than SRS because the first thing other people see is our face. As for SRS, only our sex partners see our vag.
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jade

I can't believe we are even discussing this thread, it is like asking what letter the alphabet starts with.
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