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Paranoid about not passing.

Started by Darrin Scott, September 26, 2013, 08:02:01 PM

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Darrin Scott

I almost never make posts about myself, but this is something that has been bothering me lately. I'm always paranoid I don't pass. I'm 4 months away from top surgery and I'm over a year and a half on T and have a pretty decent beard, but I'm always scared that I won't pass. Or that I don't. I went to taco bell the other night and I could've sworn the lady at the counter said "ma'am". I feel like I look female. The issue is, sometimes you go into a store and people don't gender you. Especially if you're young. I notice older men get called "sir" more than a young guy does. I find myself not being gendered sometimes in public and when I am it's male. But those times that I'm not gendered in public I'm worried about not passing. I keep seeing female when I look at myself. I don't know how to overcome it and it's been bothering me for a while.





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Darkie

Courage is the power that turn dreams into reality.
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Adam (birkin)

I have the exact same problem, and I don't know why. I can't even grow a beard at all lol (too patchy to grow out at all). But I worry still that I won't pass, and even today I heard things that were obviously just me being paranoid about being "clocked." I had one girl, just yesterday she asked me if I was a father (she thinks I'm cismale). Then today, she said something about me doing good, and I swear I heard "you go girl!" And my mind started to race. It started to say "OMG SOMEONE TOLD HER" "OMG SHE LOOKED TOO CLOSELY AT MY FACE."

It's hard, and I've had to force myself not to make the assumption that I've been misgendered unless someone very clearly says "ma'am" "she" etc. And that hasn't happened in a while now. I honestly don't think most people assume anyone is trans except in the case of non-passing trans women, actually. If people see a masculine "female" (non-passing FTM) they assume butch lesbian. If they call you "he" you can be pretty damn sure they think you are cis male.
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Magnus

Honestly, being trans is kind of like being a permanent teenager. They go through all of these physical worries all of the time even when otherwise unwarranted. Anyone else notice that parallel? LOL.

But yeah, I get this way too. I just have to remind myself that it is my perception cropping up to make me think that way, not because other people really can tell. They can't.

For me I had that confirmed in one of what I feel are the best ways possible. A friend's friend regarded me exactly like any other cisguy. I had thought he was being polite (assuming our mutual friend told them already) and knew but he didn't until someone else who already did know had pulled him aside to let the cat out of the bag (which I would have preferred they hadn't but its spilled milk, what can you do?). This other friend of ours brought it up later and then said "you definitely do have the whole dick thing going on". Meaning, I can and do pass seamless. Even though I don't think I can. I really can.

But there are still times even after that this happens. It really is us that's being the problem there. We kind of cock-block ourselves. I don't really know how to stop it either except to kind of just ignore it and keep going about my business. It's still there it's just not up to 10.

On the other hand, this seems to be worse for me around kids in public. For whatever reason, it genuinely is like they know. They stare with that kind of inquisitive and confused look trademarked of little kids. It's the damnedest thing. Anyone else—or am I being ridiculous?


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Kreuzfidel

It's something that I think will be with you for a while longer - it will, I'm sure, dissipate in time - but for now, it will come and go - learning not to let it rule your thoughts is the key.

You certainly don't look anything but male, Darrin.  I think that perhaps we sometimes mis-hear things like "ma'am" when they may have said "man", etc. - then our minds automatically twist it into what we fear.  It makes sense to me - after all, when you first start presenting as male in public, passing is paramount and what seems to validate us.  When we were knocked down if someone mis-gendered us, it was as though we were invalidated as men over and over again.  I shouldn't say "we" as I'm speaking for myself and interpretations of my own experiences - but it's just an automated response that is triggered in my opinion.  After a length of time, your brain becomes conditioned to react a certain way and to even prompt us to be vigilant about possible threats to our sense of safety and self - hence we can be hyper-sensitive to perceived mis-genderings or social cues that may not actually be what we are interpreting them to be.

Don't fret too much - it's a normal reaction, in my beliefs.  You're still early in your transition and still finding your way and sense of foundation in yourself as a normal man.  It all just takes a little time.
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aleon515

I've been on T for 7 months and have a stache which I dyed. My face is very masculine looking now. But I am short and not a typical guy build, though guys can have this build. I have actually been ma'amed 2-3Xs in the last month. I usually pass (I'd say 80%) but sometimes I think they are not sure. Except now I have an attitude about it, which I actually think is a good thing. I think wtf is wrong with them and what do they see female about me? I do agree re: the adolescent thing though if you are on T it is not a "sort of like adolescence" thing. You *are* an adolescent in certain ways. So some of this I suppose goes into the "they'll never understand me?" and so on.

You look dude to me. I do know of a lot of guys (myself included here) that get read as gay. I suppose one never loses all the female socialization and mannerisms.

--Jay
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Evolving Beauty

If you have that amount of beard and moustache there's no way on earth people will think you're female. Maybe fem boy but a woman itself, IMPOSSIBLE!
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spacerace

Quote from: Magnus on September 26, 2013, 08:58:08 PM
On the other hand, this seems to be worse for me around kids in public. For whatever reason, it genuinely is like they know. They stare with that kind of inquisitive and confused look trademarked of little kids. It's the damnedest thing. Anyone else—or am I being ridiculous?

I have noticed this too; you're not being ridiculous.

Sometimes I think it could be that their parents would be questioning "is that a man or a woman?" as well if they gave it any thought, but they know better than to stare. That's not a fun option to consider though. Probably more just that kids are curious and we set off something that creates a blip on their radar.

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